नेवाः राज्यको घोषणा - टुक्रीदै छ नेपाल (HQ)

Nepalese politicians are selling their morality and dignity for small political selfishness. They are drawing a crack in our society so that they can achieve a dream to be in super power.

Problem is, all nepali politicians think they belong to indian heritage and nepal was once a part of India, and now it's time that Nepal is returned to India. Only Narayan Man Bijukchhe is different.

yi jaatibaadi newar/jyapu haru pani madise jastai po garna lage baa!!!!! uniharu pani junsukai party ko bhayepani milera yek madesh chahincha bhandai ghukchan..... ahile yi kattar jyapu haru pani jun sukai bhayepani sabai milera yekthau ma aayeka cha..... madise lai jastai yiniharulai pani Nepal ma jaatiye yudha machayera tukryauna ko laagi kinyo ki ke ho???? aba chaahi sachhai pramaadit bhayo....JYAPU KO BUDDHI CH*K MAA NAI HUNERAHECHA!!!!!!!!!!!..... MADISE KA PUCHHAR HARU!!!!!!!!

 RASTRABAADI NEWAR HARU YI RASTRAGHATI KO BIRODH MA AGHI AUNU PARYO!!!!!!

sab lai golli hanna parni ..kam chaina hai iniharuko ..desh kun bato ma cha  , kasto cha bhane kura dimag ma chaina .....kutaaa haruuu ...chuttaiii rajya chahini parni .....sab maowadi ko kam ho yo ...desh bhaduwa haruu ..

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kta/kti ho... alik paisa kamaun, ani gopya society kholaum, ani kaam garna thalnu parchha...

jai nepal

soulless

rbdlama तेरो बुद्दी चै कहा छ नि ? यो भन्दा बदी भन्नु न पर्ला है ? Try to understand the situation. these people are misguided, madeshi or newar or bhote like you all are nepali , Some one is playing politics for their own benefits and we have to understand it. So please stop blaming and watch your mouth..

There's one button called "Newars" in the indian remote control securely placed in the Delhi Darbar... I think the Indian PM must have pressed that "newars" button...

I agree with Soil. People commenting here share no less blame than the ones celebrating their rajyas.

i agree with novaguy, this is divide and concur in action.

म एक नेवार हुँ तर मलाई नेवार संघीयताको घोषणाले पुग्दैन। मेरो आफ्नै थर छ नेवार जात भित्र। म त्यस जातको संघीयताको लागि संघर्श गर्दै छु। म पाटनको एक तल्लो जात  समुदाएको आफ्नै अधिकारको लागि संघर्श गर्दै जाने मान्छे हुँ। मेरो जात नेवार समुदाय भित्र थिचिएको र हेपिएको जात हो। म मेरो संघर्शबाट कहिलै दब्ने छैन। त्यसैले मलाई नेवार संघीयताको होइन मेरो आफ्नै जात समुदाएको संघीयता चाहिन्छ। यस्को लागि म अरु नेवार जातीको केही परबाह राख्दिन।

P.S. :  नेता भनाउदाहरुले यहीनै खोजेको थियो त म के गरु?

THIS IS A DOUBLE EDGE SWORD.  IF NEPALI SOCIETY HAD NOT OPRESSED THESE ETHNIC GROUPS AS THEY HAD IN THE PAST THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER COME ABOUT. BE IT MADHESI, BE IT NEWAR, BE IT LIMBHUWAN, TAMU OR ANY ETHNIC GROUP.  WHO THE FUDGE DO WE BLAME THAT HAS BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT ? NOBODY BUT OURSELVES. SO THIS NAME CALLING AND POINTING FINGERS IS NOT GOING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM.

AS I SAID YESTERDAY GIVE THEM THE NEWAR WHATEVER THEY WANT AS LONG AS THEY ARE UNDER NEPALI SOVERGNITY THAT IS FINE. I MEAN LOOK AT SCOTLAND UNDER GREAT BRITAIN.  MY POINT IS DO NOT SCRUTINIZE THE NEWARI, MAITHELI, LIMBUWAN COMMUNITIES(this will just isolate them and make them more angry) BUT TO LOOK FOR SOLUTIONS AS TO HOW WE CAN ACCOMODATE THEM UNDER THE NEPALI UMBRELLA.

TARA YO NEPALI BANDERS HARU LAI GALI GARNU BAHEK KEHIII AUDAINA. GADHA HARU TA HUN.

agreed
but to me newar is not a race but more a culture.
do we want nepal to be divided on the basic of culture? how much territory would you expect to be? i guess atleast 60. or a number similar to the districts of nepal.
now imagine people of each district acting differently from one another. though they have same religion, they are divided culturally. i guess there is a smaller difference in culture between one home to another home. it totally depends upon how you like to do things or like things to be done. rit? now these territories one day may want to divide because each sug group of people deleive in doing differently. how many more territories? may be the number would correspond to the numbers of Nagar palika and Ga. Bi. Sa.
and imagine you need visa to go to each territory.

BC -

Your saying that Newars were oppressed??? You are kidding bro-they are the most privileged group. Madhesi were not also not oppressed-as far as "opportunities" are concerend-yeah they were humiliated, and mostly by Newars, not by the other castes-Bramins (current culprits) have been living in Terai since ages.. Newars discover the word " marsya". Amongst the newars-Newar themselves oppressed the other castes of newars like ( Sahi-nyah:, Napit: Nau:, Kapali: Joghi, Karanjit: Bhangra, Ranjitkar : Chipa, and lists goes on-pode, chyamkhla, kau and so on). Now do not tell me this started after PN Shan united Nepal. J S MALLA (Newar King) was the one who started. And amongst Newars itself-Buddhists newars are more " SAMPRADAIK" than HINDU-Do you think Buddhist Newars/Buddhism were also oppressed? Bajracharya was oppressed by Shrestha or so on?? ha ha If you compare the socio-economic status amongst the newars-Buddhist Newars falls under well to do communities than others.( EG.Bareh:-Bajracharya-Sakya, Dhakwa, Udyah-Tuladhar, Kansakar, Sthapit)-Will anyone stop this " Oppressed" theroy to justfy current division??

Madeshi falls under same situation as of the newars- as they also have vast diversity and cast divisions from Chaudhary/Rajput/Kayastha to Chamar.


Yeah one point you are right-we can not blame anyone but ourselves - but those who just want to capitalize ethnic mind set to score the political points ( like Maoists) and those who does not have the capacity to rise above their ethnic/religious ( like padma ratna/malla k sundar) mentality are the real culprit! Hang them we will be fine. And Bro your comparison of Nepal with Scotland -Great Britain -check the literacy level of those countries-let alone the other factors.

what will newa rajya's national animal be? is it going to be a Bhaisi? 

Nepali Kancho & EAGLE 5

Kancho, DID I SAY GIVE THEM A SOVERGN NATION ? NO.  But if they want cultural, societal, and religious freedom to be Newaris ...fine UNDER THE BIG NEPALI UMBRELLA. SAME GOES FOR LIMBUWAN, MADHISEY, ETC ETC.  I AM NOT WILLING TO DIVIDE NEPAL INTO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT IS TODAY.  Look at MUSTANG. Yeah I know we are divided along the cultural, religious, and ethnic backgrounds.  What we need to do is to focus on how to improve our relations rather than calling names and victimising people(or ethnic groups) who speak out.

THESE PROBLEMS DID NOT CROP UP YESTERDAY, THEY HAVE BEEN THERE AS LONG AS WE CAN REMEMBER.  AND KNOWING THERE IS A PROBLEM SHOULDN'T WE BE PUTING OUR LAME ASS HEADS TOGATHER FOR SOLUTIONS ?

BC bro, No social system can be problem proof. That can happen in only in Utopian society or in fiction fairy tale. In US -Racial/ethinic problem is a still a big problem-despite being country of immigrants. Country like nepal where economy, education, jobs and basic necessities are way below any standard and now some people have developed this notion that everything has happened because of so called oppression by one caste to the others. Do any so called-ethnic communities have guts to look at their own life style and review their own culture and modify and improve it? Have any so-called communities guts to respect other's culture and religion? Has newar has guts to rise above KTM mentality and respect those who are outside of it-forget everything-newar of KTM disparage Newar of Bhaktapur and other hillside by calling them " GHAMA"-meaing igonarnt stupid villagers!!

If you look at nepal's statistics, still most ethnic communities are well to do( like newars/thakali-refer to statistical data) because they are trade based. Today they say-lama (tamang) are oppressed communities-but nobody give a second thought that these communities settled in high altitude- where poor country like Nepal, it is impossible to provide basic amenities in such area purely because of geographical constraints and these peole who like to see " sumeru" ( peak of hill because of cultural and religious practice) were edged out-not because of anyone's oppression!  All the mongolian communities-who migrated from mangolia and central part of china during -9-17 AD, were living nomadic life-  gurung used to carry " bhakari" like moving home later they learnt how to build ( do some research on gurun jati) and settled again in the belt of annapurna-now u tell me they are oppressed by whom ??if u can not open a school in Sikhles is that KTM people's fault?.  Funniest thing is, now they are one of richest communities thanks to British Gorkha but they are still called them oppressed -by whom? Did they go to British/Indian army coz in nepali army nobody wanted them-or was there a greater likelihood that they're gonna be oppressed by other thakuri hat they opted nepal army? and this is why they opted for british army? u ready to buy that ??

First all the ethnic communities need to learn where they lacked in a history and not repeat that. I am newar grown up in Thahinti/Thamel-seen some ethnic communities who would wear saffronin day time,  some kept - ride in prado pazero  and at night intoxicated -no offense but this is also a reality are they really oppressed?? and some of them either kept gold biscuits under Bhedako sukuti. Today they are also opressed.....u kidding me??

I being a newar-I understand culturally it was so hard for us to give up some cultural practices (thanks to them we still known as newar) which I feel proud but yet some of our practices needs to change. But how can I blame others for that?? My mom being educated would not want my Manandhar friend in Kitchen. So now should I blame bhaun/chetri for that?? My urge -for every ethnic communities-think about ur own life style and choice of your living has made you deprived not the oppression from other caste. You yourself need to change first!

NO OFFENSE! PEACE

geda jasto jatiya rajya banaudai ma cultural freedom huncha? ani 5-10% bhayeko euta jati ko naam ma rajya banayera tyo jatilai culutural freedom bhaye aru jatiko culture chahi ke garne ni?.................... ki baki aru jatile tehi euta jati ko culture mannu parne freedom ho?........................... mjhi haru samanata re! bhutroko samanata? euta jati ko naam ma singo rajya ghosana garne ani arulai ke ko saman abasar?...................... ani geda jasto jun jati ko jun thauma rajya ghosana garyo tyo rajya ma matra tesko cultural freedom hune ki aru jati ko naam ma banayeko rajya ma pani tesko cultural freedom hune?..................... mujhi jatha haru harek jati nepal bhari nai failiyera baseka chan, ani geda jasto ek thauma tyo jati ko naam ma rajya banayera alu huncha?................... ani mjhi thorai sankhya bhayeka jati haru ko culutural freedom chahi ke huncha ni? tiniharuko naam ma pani ta rajya banauna paryo...... geda haru

Eagle5le bhaneko ek dum thik cha,........................... yi mujhi chorharu lai sasan hatyauna matra pareko ho... nepali bhedaharu chahi tehi chor netaharuko laha lahaima lagera afu afu ma judhi raheka chan.......mjhi bheda haru.................. 

 

Eagle 5

I was talking about freedom for Newars to practice and preserve their own culture. Now as far as the problems within the newari culture is a whole another can of worms. Nobody is perfect in this world.  What I am talking about is giving freedom to each and every ethnic group to practice their customs and cultures. We might consider rural and quiant but hey if they identify with that so be it. I mean really who am I to question that ?

BC bro- No one is against of socio-cultural freedom. As a matter of fact all the ethnic communities do have/practice their freedom since panchayat era or even before that. PN Shah even followed kumari culture. All the jatras /bhoj of KTM are testimonies of their socio cultural freedom. But the freedom now they are talking is completely different- how come one ethnic community of one particular geographical region qualifies?? to rule other minority ethnic group??? on what ground??..is that freedom or oppression? Even If you look at a population of KTM, then Newars already are in minority..If this is a freedom then my friend what is  oppression?? I leave it you bro.If we want to build a country where minority rules majority then bro we are heading toward another APARTHEID. God bless our wisdom!