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crazy_boi
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Posted on 03-02-09 4:43
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'Ex-King awaits arrest upon his Nepal return' TGW A vernacular weekly in Kathmandu dated March 2, 2009, quotes sources close to the Prime Minister's official residence in Kathmandu that the Government is planning to put Nepal's last monarch Gyanendra Shah behind the bars the moment he lands in Kathmandu from his India sojourn.
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naivelyStupid
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Posted on 03-03-09 10:10
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Though I believe the rumour about possible arrest of Big G is nothing but 'haawa guff', if some maoist leader has hinted it, then it's certainly some kind of 'hataas manasthiti ko upaj'. Six months in office and no achievement in any front. What else can they think of except going back to their old habit of putting the entire blame on others. Gyanendra's ghost is still necessary for them to show that they're relevant. However, they should've realized by now that Nepali public's mood changes too quickly and whom the people will strike this time around is not so difficult to guess.
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sajhakhohero
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Posted on 03-03-09 10:14
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Just like yakthung_laje i care about my Identity and preserving my heritage. Whether i am Gurung,Magar,Kirati,Newar,Tharu,Thakali,Sherpa,Tamang, or other undermarginalized people of Nepal, we need o preserve their culture,identity and practices/rituals. We need to preserve and show respect to these ancient believes and culture because that's what our ancestors have been doing so. It's my IDENTITY. JanaJatis have never been heard or just been scraped by Shah rulers for hundreds of years now. for example, Proclaiming Nepal as the Hindu State. Did they ever ask the people about it? I am not against Nepal being hindu state, but at least Shah should have shown respect to JanaJatis. JanaJatis means native/indiineous people. It means that before Shah grandfather and grandmother came from Iran-Paki-India-Nepal, these people were already making Nepal their home. There's never in a single Nepali history about Panchayat system telling how JanaJatis were not allowed to access to education. For fear that if janajatis received education, they would hold high posts. Also I heard vaguely about what's written in Prithivi Narayan Shah's book "Dibya Upadesh" about the Gurkhas. Its written in the book that the Gurungs, Magars, Rais and Limbus should be used as weapons BUT they should never be allowed to assume IMPORTANT Posts. I heard that Dibya Upadesh is like a manual book for the ruling, feudal class. whatever they have learnt comes through this book. So does anyone knows about this? I am looking forward to read the full article and find the answer. SKH | |
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Posted on 03-03-09 10:24
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I like what I am hearing from Yakthung and Sajhakohero. While I do not condone the current degraded state of Nepal, I also am happy that Shah rule has ended. As for Gyanendra Shah getting arrested upon his return to Nepal, I think that is just some "bakwaas", an example of yellow journalism. Sure there might be an investigation, in some shape or form, on the royal massacre, but that's about it.
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grgDai
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Posted on 03-03-09 10:24
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Sajhakohero, you sound like a hero but you base your hatred on what you have heard 'vaguely'?? Don't you want to verify details first?
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BathroomCoffee
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Posted on 03-03-09 10:33
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Why the hell are you diggning in the past to rectify your racist existance in the present ? YOUR LAME ASS EXISTANCE SHOULD DEFINE WHO YOU ARE NOT WHAT OTHERS TELL YOU TO....... BE IT YOUR BAAJHE OR SAAKHA SANTAAN. JUST CAUSE YOUR BAAJHE WAS RACIST DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE RACIST TOO. YOU SHOULD LET GO OF THE PAST, LOOK TO THE FUTURE AND FOCUS ON WHAT YOU WANT TO BE RATHER THAN WHAT YOU WERE.
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Posted on 03-03-09 11:37
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Totally agree with Mr BathroomCoffee there. Anyways, so all this discussion was just based on some unconfirmed news! lolololool. We should call these events The Hritik Phenomenon. LOL! Hatti ayo hatti ayo..phusss.
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Posted on 03-03-09 12:38
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Sajhakohero le bhitti ko puchar khaye jasto cha....ek chin ma thakera chup lagca... Like lots of us have said in earlier comments, IT doesnt make any sense to go back deep down and findout where our ancesters come from or whether my great grandfatther was a racist or not. Its basically todays generation who have the huge task to figure out how we are going to carry our country together interms of development of the country and its social harmony...Neta gu haru ta gu bhai hale hami ta gu hai na ni... let the puppet netas talk, who are seriously shit scared of one private(now) citizens india visit.Like Bcoffee said may be they are his friends or may be hes there to see any loopholes..Bottomline is WHO CARES? HES DOING HIS BUSINESS SO IS EVERYONE ELSE.
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bagbhalu
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Posted on 03-03-09 12:55
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There is no authentic evidence to prove him that he did massacre of royal families. Please, let him live as an ordinary citizen. .
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crazy_boi
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Posted on 03-03-09 5:23
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I agree with you bathroomcoffee 100% ..
Racist people like Yakthung and sajhakohero is a just a disgrace for our nation..who in 21st century stuck with a past n bring....hatred among nepalese people..and that's wrong..despite what race and ethenic group we represent we are Nepalese first ..and what ever we do we should do for our country and country people not individual group or people...
"Blood for Blood " don't works...we been discriminated now we want to discriminate not going to help...i think people like Yakthung and sajhakohero need counseling...please someone here help them out...
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Posted on 03-03-09 6:11
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shahs were rajputs from mewar clan who fled to western hills of nepal in fear of the mughals and hoping to get something to rule there.they came to dhor (tanahun)and settled there first. then their siblings and others moved to western hills near Kaski, gorkha and palpa . shah was a post given by the mughal sehanshah which means just a simple king or ruler but later this became their last name.at that time gorkha was called UPPALLOKOT and majhkot ruled by khadka kings and magar generals.lig lig was just a small takure rajya beside these two states which was of strategical importance.
after drabya shahs annexation of majhkot and uppalokot the whole state was named gorkha(Goraksha-land of protectors of the holy cow).but after they moved to northen hills like gorkha and lamjung they got mixed with magars and khas and thus show some asian resemblance at times ,(upto mahendra they look typical indo-aryans but with birendras generation it changes).
There are other shahs (shahs from mid-and far-west). they are just khas shahs who call themselves thakuris.but at times they also got wed to the gorkhali shahs as various political alliances.
the relationship between shahs and rajputs can be easily traced.apart from linguistic resembelance (rajsthani is much similar to nepali than other indian languages),there are also cultural resembelances.gorkhali kings celebrated dashain as the main festival of the year and the rajputs too (as dushera with bali ,tika and kotpuja) unlike any other hindu comunity of indian sub continent .the rakhi ceremony which was originally practised in rajsthan only is very similar to bhai tika and the folklore behind it too.the worship of 2 main deities shakti/durga/kali and rudra/mahadev is also similar. or be the similar structure of daura and rajastani dress.they were all brought by the shahs and later the ranas.
the nepalese flag previously was a single pendant similar to that of mewar dynasty( a faced sun on a red background as a symbol of suryabansi lineage).and later a faced moon was added( for the Kunwars -later ranas who were chandrabansi descendents).
pn shah said at his last breath that he had created an ASALI HINDUSTANA only to mean that our glorious nation is the one who hasnt and wouldnt fall in the hands of outsiders like mughals and englishmen and protect the original cultures of indian sub-continent.and he is also the one who said MA MAGARAT KO RAJYA HUN:
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Posted on 03-03-09 7:28
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rightly said shiva linga, PNS had declared he is the king of magars and they played major role in unification. crazy bro ur blatant bombardment of racist doesnt make sense, u hav not mentoined how was i racist by worrying about my dying cultures and also hav not explained to me the actual nepalese nationalism in ur view. hav i mentioned on incited voilence or hatred just becasue others r of different race n of inferior to us?? there is one brahmin dude in sikkim who once said that as to strenghthen thier supeiority in society if any of these indegneous natives raises voices as to safeguard thier religions, languages, cultures n seek for equality then we should level them as racists, seperatists and anti national so that they drop down thier voices and agitation, do u follow such mantra brother?? we r not mere castes, we dont fall under hindu heirarchy segregated by manuscript, not allowing to touch water or use them just becasue of thier caste and inferiority is racist, not allowing them to enter temple is racist, these r waht u should b calling racists acts. but we r distinct of our own unique culture n traditions if i worry about it, i wont give a rats asss brother watever u acuse me of. cause ur posts r quite clear to tell that u r blind follower of gyane and monarchy i hav never ever felt any shah dudes as my MY KING n i hav right to my expression. doesnt that make u a propogator of feudalism, an aged old system, isnt that being regressive. ILO C No169 guarantees the fundamental rights of indegenous natives to the same degree as other national socities and nepal has ratified it. so, what racism hav u seen here?? or r those Geneva dudes racist too for drafting such convention, or those UNESCO dudes who has recognized many indegenous tribes in the world and hav supported to safeguard thier rights. just like u r quavering by the fall of monarchy n crying every wolf in its favour so am i for my dying culture n betterment of nation as a whole, does that make us difference?? sorry brother for going personal but u started it. bathroom dude r u in dreamland?? dont u see things building up in nepal, there r groups like mongolian revenge group, limbuwan, khambuwan, tharuwan. etc n they all r militarily trained, armed and in very aggressive mode. n this group has high chances of polarizing n creating big force by ethnicity. even the unfied command of armed polcie force, nepal police and special task force could not break the hair of mongolian revenge group after they attackd police post, same thing happend in khotang last year. this didnt happen in our baje's time it is happening now in our time. so think about it brother. sweeping this ethnicity issue under the carpet n pretending nothing is happening could lead more disaster in future. here, i hav discussed about present n future with reference to past, satisfied. or r u busy in defending gyane whole time, isnt' he of past too the whole monarchy??
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Posted on 03-03-09 7:55
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i got one comment to make. few decades ago, Shah and his puppets government were able to manipulate the JanaJatis because they did not have formal education, were simple, honest and straight-forward. They had little knowledge of awareness and the world. But today, it has turned upside down. That's why Nepal is in deep_shit_hole now, because the people are AWAKEN! As yakthung_laje said " there is one brahmin dude in sikkim who once said that as to strenghthen thier supeiority in society if any of these indegneous natives raises voices as to safeguard thier religions, languages, cultures n seek for equality then we should level them as racists, seperatists and anti national so that they drop down thier voices and agitation,"
Now people have some formal education, many of them are now looking deeper into their hertitage, that's why enthicity is so important now. It's because for past hundreds years nobody dares to speak for the undermarginalized people while others exploited it. for example, do you know what enabled the Ranas to build massive, lavish palaces during their regime? WAKE UP PEOPLE.
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Posted on 03-03-09 11:24
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काठमाडौँको भित्तामा एउटा नयाँ नारा देखिएको छ। अहिलेसम्म यस्तो नारा देखिएको र सुनिएको थिएन। आदिवासी/जनजातिलाई आरक्षण दिन थालिएपछि हामीलाई नि आदिवासी जनजाति घोषणा गर्नुपर्छ भन्दै अबका दिनमा अरु पनि समूहले भित्ता रंगाउन सक्छ।
This is exactly what will happen,despite there caste and race no one could be isolated..all it creates is hatred between us..nothing..instead of asking for ethencity based division and demands we should unite and protect what is ours..
As yukthung said kirat/magar..mongol have guns and arms today..Is that a real solution?? i dont' think so ...Imagine they achieved what they want through guns n bullets but wouldnt that marginalised other jatis ..and they will take arm against the same group.so when will that end.accepting every ethenic group and working for common goal is the best solution...aba yo jaat paat...paila yesto gare bhanda aaba k garda ramro hunchaa tira lagnu parchaa..Neta are the problems of our country..we should be taking against incumbent netas...that's all...
PLEASE STOP ALL THIS BULLSHIT RACE JAAT ...WE ARE NEPALI..AND WE SHOULD BUILT OUT COUNTRY NEPAL...
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Posted on 03-03-09 11:35
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I heard Jharana Bajracharya gave the ex-King a lapdance as condolence. Is this true? ;)
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Posted on 03-04-09 7:45
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No K6 bro u're wrong. In fact it was your mom who gave the ex-king a lapdance. And I hear a rumor that u'll be getting a new brother pretty soon because of that.
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Posted on 03-04-09 8:48
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Posted on 03-04-09 11:04
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Listen To This IDIOT WHO GOES AROUND CALLING HIMSELF SAJHA KO HERO, spewing hatred trying to divide Nepali population. THIS MAPAI WANNA BE SAJHA KO HERO WANTS TO BLAME ALL THE ILLS OF NEPALI SOCIETY ON EVERYONE ELSE BUT HIMSELF. I am one of those Janajaatis but you don't see me blaming others for the plight my peoples. AND DO YOU REALLY THINK BLAMING OTHERS AND POINTING FINGERS IS GOING TO HELP THOSE JANAJAATIS PROBLEM ? NOPE as a matter of fact it will further divide them and create more animoity between us, and would eventually hinder the growth and development of our beloved country. But this EGOTISTIC IDIOT THINKS OTHERWISE. Bikas ko mool phutainey ta kahaa kahaa khaali tauko phutauney kura matrai garcha yestaaa gadaa haru.
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Posted on 03-04-09 2:18
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Holy CRAP! Kaal_ratri, so IF the rumors are true, then...then...my mom is JHARANA BAJRACHARYA???? And.. and .. my younger brother going to be royal blood? Dam kaal_ratri, tht must hv made u jealous, both sexually and well, enviously. Jokes aside.. Jharana cud gimme a lap dance anytime ;)
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Posted on 03-04-09 9:42
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Right now I am reading Mahabharata. Please let me finish reading Mahabharata. i will be back! SKH
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Posted on 03-04-09 11:02
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I agree with u Bathroom Coffee 100%..this are cowards just trying to provoke war.. We shouldn't be fighting each other it have no endings.. and sticking with past not going to help build our nation...Sajhkohero...Yakthung they just a disgrace...try to raise a jati/janajati propoganda...we lived in harmony for years...we should live in harmony..if there is something wrong been done lets make it rite..lets not create division and isolate some groups...
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