British gurkhas have now won the right to settle in the UK and I would like to congratulate them even its too late. Gurkhas believe that UK settlement right is good for their children's education and their future. I wonder how true is that ? According to European commision's report that UK's education is one of the worse in Europe and  one in ten UK's 5 year old children cannot write their own name and cannot count up to 20.

According to one of UK's best known newspaper 'the guardian ' one in three 11 years to 16 years old carry knives, drink alcohol and have had sexual intercourse. UK is also known as racist country and support for BNP ( british national party) which is also known as white supermacist is growing.

So dear Gurkhas, think twice before you sell your property in Nepal and move to settle in the UK. speaking english doesnt make your childrens' future better and educated.

The big problem with UK people  (specially white)
is they have the same mentality they did have 200 years ago. they still
believe they are world power and they are not looking on the other side
of the world whats really happening and how fast the other world are
changing.

I have been to so many asian countries and I
live in the US now. I have no problem at all regarding racism but my 3
months stay in the UK was nightmare. young people in the UK dont have
any idea about politeness and respect they just call you " oii mate" if
not " ching chang " they even called me " vcd" its because some chinese
sell pirate cds in london streets.

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I don't know which area you have been. I certainly have had no problem of racism in 6 years. And another thing about mentality you would not get such a respectful persons in the world world like an educated white british.  You can always determine what is high class and rich british and what is low class mostly living in ghetto.

I am still not buying your words about british. I think you lived ina wrong neighbourhood thats it.  I have friends from few coutnries who lived in several places in Europe and in UK. They say UK is the most welcoming and tolerant society. I myself belive in that.  UK has very good security system compared to US because UK is a small country and government can provide protection more easily.  Plus UK don't have gun crime like in US.  Add to that medicine in UK is free. US can rip you apart when you get sick. My friend got sick in US and the insurance company somehow tried to avoid paying his medical by delibratly finding some ground. In UK at least you don't have to worry about medical.

Dear no_quiero, as a ordinary Nepalese I could not afford to stay in Chelsea or Poole Bournemouth, ofcourse I did stay in plum stead in London and other areas where ordinary working class nepalese live. To be very honest with you I do not compare myself to those highly educated british nor I do to those pepole like Sir Alan, dragons of the den and those footballers.

Rightly or wrongly you said may be I lived in ghetto during my visit to UK but as a student I am sure that you dont live to those places where highly paid footballers and businessmen live. In term of security you guareented that UK is small country and can provide security but where is the proof ? do you know almost everyday threre is one fatality of knife crime in london ? do you know even one of  HARRY POTTER co-star was stabbed to death last year ?

Dear no_quiero, I dont believe in "re" and I suggest you not to.

I agree that knife crime rate is high in UK. But in comparison to other european countries UK is least racist. I don't know what kind of racism you guys faced in Plumstead. But I am still living in Plumstead and all I know is when me and my friends see white British white people shopping in this area, we start to talk about those people coz we can hardly see British white people in this area! Is that racism? May be...
-When you go to african-british community area, black people start to peer on Asian people.
-When black people go to Asian community area like Plumstead, Nepalese start to peer.
-When Black or Asian people go to countryside (remote villages), white people don't even want to look   your face.
I think these phenomenon are natural. It's not racism. Even in Nepal, Newar community in kathmandu hate Bahun and chhetri who rule Nepal but we never say it's racism!

I have lived in the U.K  for alomost 5 yrs, now living in the U.S.A. I can not be more agree with Snow.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2570203/500000-kids-are-failed-by-Labour-Government.html

Georgian satellite i don't know on what mission are you to prove. Don't say people don't fail in Nepal or in US. You have absolutely no point at all.  If you go to youtube and see the videos you will see lots of videos of gun crime in US. Should we stop going to US? Last year only 3-4 Nepalese died due to gun crime in US.  Do we hear such thing in UK?  Or do we assume there is a lot of  guncirme in US .
You don't prove anything to stop gurkha from coming here.

If you talk about london 45 percent of the total population are made up of immigrants. I am telling you must have lived in the worst neighbourhood.  If any nepali children is bad it is purely because of themsleves and not by britain.

REgarding gurkha children. Tini haru ta nepal mai bigriya hunchan. How many learned gurkha children have you seen? On an average compared to other jati ni nepal they are very less educated. And it is understandable because they enjoy lots of money and usually their father lives somewhere in overseas working. Its not that britain that has made them bad . The fault is in ourself. Gurkha children even in hongkong  has been spoilt.  

Dear friends ,  if possible ,would u  let me know the list of universities that are offering home student tution fees for gurkha's childrens. I m looking for grad school in computer scienece or mba. im kinda old for going back to school but always i wanna hold the master degree and seems like its an oppertunity for me :-)  or anu suggestions??well thanks  in advance!!!!!

 

D are you son of gurkha in UK. You must be carrying a knief in UK rahter than doing masters in UK according to satellite .

Anyway, ILR is a compicated matter. Some Universities require you to be resident of UK for 3 years to be accepted as a home student fees. Some Universitiy does not require that condition.  If you have british citizenship then their would be no problem. For ILR every university has own rule. So you need to try different universities and try to find out wether your application falls under that.

By the way you will see number of old people doing masters . Its not that uncommon.

Who ever says Brits are racist, I 100% agree with 'em. I've never been to UK but I've to deal with a Brit in my work place in US. Since he knows Nepal n Nepalese and might have thought its not a big deal, in his first meeting he tells me - 'so u Gurkhas are still fighting' he was referring to Maoist back then. I was f.....king so mad. Even after couple of days he goes something like that.......I had a big argument with the guy, I yelled him f.......king bald head Brit suck my d......ck in front of the whole office, his face was f......king so red.........from that day he's the coolest person here in office.....we don't do this in the executive level here in office but I had to.....no choice........tyo nepali ma bhanchhan ni.....laat ko bhut baat le mandai na.......I've been living in US for 8 years, have a pretty decent life and job and never had to face a situation like that, not even in the mid west where people say a lot of red neck racist lives............

gurguanpati.......tero statement bata ta po racist dekhis ta . not that british. You have never been to britain and you call british racist  That british can say the same thing to all nepalese judging by you and your statement. 

oh yeah. So you mean british are racist. And what about the racism of blacks whites we hear in news. What happened to asians after 9-11 when many of them got beaten . Many was threatened for their life.

You people should get life.  British has given oppertunity to all the gurkhas.  If they were racist they wouldn't have.  Many many white peopel supported the movement. Government was alone and at last have to bow down to the people call. Woman like Joanna lumely is also white.  You f*** tosser. How dare you call that to brit. You can enjoy your life there. The conceller of kent is also white. They all love nepal. If you go to gurkha movement rights forum in facebook. Majority of people you will see their are whites.

Even the most extremist  part like BNP (equivalent to racist party KKK party in US) has a soft corner for gurkhas. And for god shake you guys should get a life.  Grukha has made many roads, hospitals in Nepal. They constantly are helping Nepal in some way or the other. What you guys are doing?


You guys have a problem if some people in nepal get easy access to good and free education, good life,  better health system . 

You should watch this video and shut the f off.  It is world wide phnoemena.

no_quiero, I dont really understand why you are trying to dignify the british? Is it because you live and study in britain? Is it because they gave gurkhas the right to live in britain? Is it because 45% population in London are migrants? Is it because they are still recruting Gurkhas from Nepal? Is it because they speak english?

If there is no racism why gurkhas were denied every rights for more than 200 years ? If there is no racism why no british white are living with the inidan-british in Southhall? If there is no racism why that pakistani origin asst.commissioner of scotland yard was denied promotion as chief commissioner? 

Ofcourse UK is far better country than Nepal and am not trying to stop Gurkhas to go to UK but what I am telling is..think twice before you make your move. I believe racism do exist in every corner of the globe but in britain its bit too much. thats the reason britain sometime find itself isolated and confined by other european countries.

I think this guy no_quiero is a Gurkha himself and is married to a white Brit chick.........otherwise i don't see any reason for this guy to be so much blind supportive of a racist white Brit

Satellie so what, there is gun crime in US. Should we say thing twice before going there? 3-4 people  nepalese were killed last year only. So what we infer?

If there is no racism why no british white are living with the inidan-british in Southhall?
------------  I have no answer because i dont think this is racism. As long as people do bad behaviour towards the people of other race people are free to living any where.

REgarding gurkha case,it was signed that way . Gurkha 100 years earlier were happier in living in Nepal. So they were giving sufficient money in the context of nepal. And what about the support all the nepalese got from white people. 


And georgian satellite i think you this thread is nothing but jealousy Yes jealousy.  You could have been gurkha.  But  you studied worked your a** off to get phd. And this gurkha children had it easy. They do nothing and get everything. and foreign citenzenship. I know why your thread is coming from.

Why should gurkha even think coming to britain. It is not because of britain gurkha children are spoilt. These children are already a spoilt brat. What kind of knife crime are you talking about. If UK was such a bad place , why so many Nepali student come here to study, why people from all over the world come to study.  Why so many top scholar come from the university in UK.   If you look beyond gurkha children in UK, you will see some of the most learned, educated nepalese . which means there is something wrong with gurkha rather than Britain.

Ani guruganapati, You are racist bas****. It can be seen with whtat you have said. Chor le aru lai chor bhanera kehi matlab hunna.

no_quiro, you seem to have totally disintegrated from the way of british life and society. How many native british friends do you have ? Have you ever gone out of London? because only Lodon doesnt represent whole britain.

Are you trying to say that aisan people in south hall treated native british so badly and they moved away? How did you know that they behaved badly to british people as you have mentioned earlier that the law against racial discrimination in britain is very strong ?

What about the Gurkha case, you said it was signed that way? which way? did you read the paper sighne by so called " shree 3 Janga Bahadur Rana? you said 100 years ago gurkhas were happy to live in nepal but history says nepalese started joining british forces soon after the war ended between british and nepal in 1818. What about if Gurkhas were given chance to live in britain then? So mr quiero, it wasnt sign that way .. Gurkhas were brainwashed by cunnnnning british.

What about jealousy ? Do I jealous because some fellow nepalese live in britain , america, japan, australia , or any other better countries ? why should I ? I have lived my life in those countries already and life is damnn hard. Having right to live in those countries doesnt mean you have a good life ..is it ?

Georgian sateliite, you are jealous because you have to work hard for your phd and those people get easily . I myself is not gurkha.  And I think they get is easily. But they have the right to have that.

And regarding my  white brithsh friends, you will run out of your fingers of hand and legs . So don't even talk about it.

Gurkha case was signed that way because nobody even thought. The thing that was signed was that the gurkhas were given good amount of money. The thing like coming to england and setteling here wasnt even in agenda. Pehile pehile ka buda haru le " hya k janu  belayat, tyo chiso ma " bhanthe. And see how many british people supported Gurkha . Even  the extreme right party (or in other way most racist party of UK) BNP has a soft corner for Gurkha.

What about US. What happeed after 9-11 . Many people were racially attacked. If you go to youtube y ou can still find lots of videos of racial attacks in US . What about gun cirme in US. I still say you have absolutely no point in saying dont bring children in UK. You haven't studied here so how can you comment.

The children here gets the best eudcation. If they education in UK was so poor then how is so many good British (born and brought up) graduates are coming from top universities.


And in many ways European do enjoy better social security and better life compared to US . OK Tax may be high and so earnning may be lower. But there are plenty of things thats better than US  For example if you become sick in US you are abosolutely ripped off. Its very expensive in US .  And several insurance company always try to avoid paying money if they have to pay high price. If you dont believe  watch a movie called Sicko. American health care system lies in 37th place with country like slovania.

 In europe you get free health care system, free education, child benifits, old benifits, unemployed benifit.  Even if you are a international student you have full benfit of National Health system. So why should gukha even think about not coming here. If they are good parents they can bring their children to be good people. I have seen many gurkha children doing very well in school.

Many gurkha children are spoit in nepal itself.

no_quiero, If you look at UK 's education system for children it totally based on " keta keti aye guleli khelaye gaye" as long as I am concerned children are taught how to play , how to solve puzzles , how to draw a picture and how to dance. If you look at the university level look at the table of top 20 university in the world only 4 UK universities are on the list and most of them are US universities.

If you look at the benefit system in UK I cant really stop laughing. How much an ordinary worker take home after tax a month? £900-£1100? how much benefit a mom with 3 children receive? £1200 a month hahaha sillyyy fat cows haha. I went to some areas in UK and saw young women with at least 3 to 5 children and I thought is UK a muslim country? why these women have so many kids? When I discovered the benefit system that was really jaw-dropping. That benefit system in UK is making people lazy as a result they need to to import workers from asia and other european countries which is now going to be a social burden to UK.

Yes I do agree with you gun crime in the US is pain in the assss.but I totally disagree that health care system, benefit system, and other social security system in UK is better than in the US. Deservingly UK people die for the American way of life. The very best life on the planet.

What a nonsense thread to start with. Isnt this way too childish to even start arguing on how others are luckier and not u??? haizzz Com'on Get a life/rather grow up!!!

Guys, all of you do sound that you are from highly educated background but dont you think you can spend your time reading/commenting on something that is beneficial to you rather than to spend your precious time in this thread and arguing/bad mouthing one another.

Nepali haru jatha gayeh pani, jeh garey pani FIGHT garnai parcha, in the end what i am trying to draw from this is if you cannot hold a healthy conversation/arguement, u don't need to be nasty towards other person. Have a civilised conversation, please!

 

Georgian satellite ,  you don't even know what you are talking about..  4 universities in top 20 in the world from UK. That makes UK bad in education.  Just count how many universities are there in the world. There are only about 120 universities in UK.  Compare that to US. 4000 Universities.

4 out of 120 makes into top 20 and it makes bad right?

And do you think gurkha should go to US, work 80 hours a week  for study when they can study in UK for either free or pay a home student fee?

Dear nepali_nari I am flabbergasted by your civilized comment and excellent temperament. I tried to be intuitive as possibly as I could but I couldnt epitomized myself during this war-of-words with no_quiero.

Living in a free society I do believe in debates and discussions the only way that can  produce best results.Our discussion might have gone wrong somewhere because we nepalese have habit of making decisions "bihind closed doors". Finally I sincerely apologise if anybody is hurt or offended by my comments on this thread. Peace fellas. The word "peace" is so peaceful. haha.