http://www.ekantipur.com/kantipur/news/news-detail.php?news_id=10350

 

IS it safe in future prespects as we have seen so many cases how the people are radicalized in this kind of environment? If such things happens in Nepal will Nepal be able to control it?

In Nepali Bhasa School and other temples or mosque or church they are not going to redicalize people. But for this kind of schools we have seen so may examples from around the world where the people are getting redicalized in the name of Religion

all these muslims are illegal immigrant. they should be deported back to india or bangladesh or wherever they came from. otherwise, consequences would be very heavy.

first of all, we need to close our border and hunt down each and every illegal immigrant.

How do u feel bout thousands of nepalese brothers n sisters being treated the same way all over the world  as we alerady know a massive number of us would fall under the category of illegal immigrants.

garibbakochhor: I don't know how massive is massive are you talking about and where that come from but if you choose to live a life as an illegal immigrant, you'll get into problems. and somehow if Nepalese illegal immigrant are deported from other foreign countries, they know exactly where to go.

it doesn't seem like a problem now but they make babies like crazy and 20 years down the line, you know what kind of problem you'll get into. Islam is a radical religion that people practice like they practice 10 century ago and it's growing crazy with the way they are making babies.  trust me, future doesn't look good if they continue this trend.

You seem to know wt you are talking bout unlike stupid me.I have no doubt that you have a very valid source to back up ur claim" All these Muslims are illegal immigrant". I regret for making a very false statement that a huge number of us , in someways have failed to completely abide by the immigration law, working under the table , over staying or wt not.I would sincerely like to apologize for responding to this thread.I hope you accept my apology.

garibbakochhora: I am just trying to make my point here. numbers are not really important and i apologize. but i am sure you can visualize how many Muslims you see today around baghbazar on friday compare to 5-10 years back.

हेमु जाठो तेरो बुद्दी, तेत्रो दु:ख गरेर बिदेशमा काम गरेको पैसो पठाएर स्कुल चलाएर जे जस्तो खाले भये पनि सिक्छ्या दि रहेका छन उनिहरुले, अहिले सम्मा त जाठो हेमुले एउटा फुटेको कौडी अर्काको छोराछोरिको सिक्छ्याको लागि फालेको छस? नहुने जिमुको गनाउने मुख!

If more Nepalis are converting to muslim and christian religion who is to blame ? Duh definately not the muslims or the christians but US THE NEPALI PEOPLE(for mistreating thos lower caste ppl since the existance of Nepal).  Its not like we have a whole lotta Muslims immigrating to Nepal for Jihad or anything. Remember when NOONE ELSE IN NEPAL WERE ALLOWED TO GOTO SCHOOLS THE HINDUS HAD THINDHARA PATHSHALA THAT ONLY ADDMITTED _______________.  You didn't hear the rest of the Nepali population up in arms. Why now ?

BC: there were lots of unjust in the world and in Nepal and there are still unjust right now. but i am glad that we live in a progressive society where things are changing for the betterment of the people as a whole. i am sure you acknowledge that things are definitely better then before. and things will better than what is right now; it's just that third world country like Nepal is making a slow pace because of so many roadblocks. but while we progress, we have to make sure that we don't go in the direction where we encounter another headache 20 years down the line. there are some society that refuse to move head and we need to make sure that those kind of society don't grow, at least not on my backyard. 

10-20 years down the line i don't wanna hear a Muslim father honor killing his daughter in nepal  because she is sleeping with a Buddhist or a Hindu.

FYI, the reason i am saying all these is because i just detest organized religion or the society that fails to move ahead because i think they are the major obstacle to the human race moving forward.

cheers
happy friday

I have always wondered what would happen if people got to choose religion only when they are old enough to vote.

I haven't brought this topic here just to criticise any Religion or their beliefs But instead to think in it as being the responsible person, not for ourselves but for the future of our offsprings. What we are seing today is people are getting radicalize in such kind of environment with the false belief that they will go to heaven if they kill more than 100 non-followers of their religion or 100 vergins will be waiting for them in heavn if they do so, or No other religion should exist except Islam etc etc.

It is really a good idea if someone sends their hard money for their community's growth I do support it. But that growth shouldn't ravish other community's peace and bring chaos to it. I know Its just a initial process so we may think it doesn't impact a lot in our environment but on long run as said by "dolphin" it will create a hell to our offsprings. So we got to think right now before it become pandemic.

Lets think what we can or our goverment can do rather than saying this is bad or good. What could be the best solution to this situation where we both (I mean that community and our country's other community) will have WIN-WIN situation.

FYI..... Radiohead - I somewhat agree with your comment. I am still in search of my career but never mind will do that after hitting my milestone.

???????

Why are we even defending any religion???

To address the point raised in this thread, Islam is more of a concern because of its teaching. Any other religion may disregard you or disown you if you leave that religion but in Islam you will get killed, that is what their god (Allah) wants.

Here are some references:
The Hadith ---Sayings and actions of Prophet Muhammad

Abu Dawud 38:4357 When the Apostle of Allah cut off the hands and feet
of those who had stolen his camels and apostacised and had their eyes
put out by fire, Allah reprimanded him and revealed: "The punishment
of those who wage war against Allah and His Apostle and strive with
might and main for rnischief through the land is execution or
crucifixion." (38A359).. or the cutting off of hands and feet from
opposite sides.

Muslim 623 The Prophet said: "It is not permissible to take the life
of a Muslim except in one of the three cases: the married adulterer, a
life for a life (if the person is Muslim), and the deserter of Islam."

Bukhari 9:89:271 A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to
Judaism Mu'adh said: "I will not sit down unless you kill him as it is
the verdict of Allah and His Apostle"

Bukhari 4:52:260 Ali burnt some people (Zanadiqa, atheists 9:84:57)
although the Prophet had said, "Don?t punish anybody with Allah's
punishment (Fire)" if a Muslim discards his religion, kill him"

 

So it is a fair point to talk about freedom of religion but I think it is of far greater importance to talk about FREEDOM FROM RELIGION.

Peace

And Radiohead your argument is totally flawed. It always matters what kind of education small children are getting or what they are learning.
We may not be able to do anything right now but we can raise or voices and awareness in the community.

It just reminded me of a song from movie Balidan which summarises as stand up with whatever you have ( monetary benefit is not the only thing that we can give to our socirty).

There certainly is a need to regularize education in these kinds of religious institutions. They should include the government syllabus and additionally teach the religious texts they seem fit. This should be followed even in sanskrit schools.

Their numbers also matter. The government should take care that most of the children of any religious community (are able to) go to secular institutions. A small percentage of children going to religous schools is ok. In the case of Madrasas, the funding part is also important. In many situations, they are funded by the most radical elements in the Middle East and they completely discourage teaching anything except the Islamic curricula. Sprouting of new institutions with such funding must be watched. They already have problems in north India and Pakistan because of this kind of education, compounded in part by the lack of sufficient government schools for those poor muslim families with lots of children living in ghettos and hardly mixing with the rest of the population.

In general, they talk about regularizing Madrasa education in our place and making sure the students also learn the governemnt syllabus. But they must also keep the numbers in order - either close down those in excess or convert them into secular schools. But then, everything boils down to politics, votes and elections; who can advise a minority now??

hemu's concern may not be warrented in this piece of news, but it can be seen in a larger picture. Is it necessary to give a religious twist to every social work you do, why not fund an institution that provides secular education? However, it's most likely that there are none in the village concerned. So who is to blame??

cowboys u r right.

i think religion is the reason world is at war. I think there should be no religion at all.

if world is at free of religions then it would be much better places to live see what's going on in Muslim world due to religion.

so no religion= peace.

If Zionism in christianity is not radicalism, Brahminism in hindu is not radicalism , Dalailamaism in buddhist is not radicalism but why this so called western made 'extremism' in muslim is radicalism? I dont understand people here who just dive into swimming pool with their DAURA SURUWAL  on.

gs: nobody disputed that radicalism exists in other organized religion. but the focus is on the Muslim society that promote century old lifestyle and dogma which is now spreading in Nepal. i am sure Christianity is spreading like a wildfire in Nepal but do you care to point out the threat poses by other religion to our progressive lifestyle as compare to Islam.

the so called western made "extremism" in radical Muslim is a real threat to the progressive society. US of A, EU have recognized that and so have India and China.

care to read this. this happened in one of the most secular Muslim society.
http://www.newmediajournal.us/culture_wars/02052010a.htm

If you do not understand and accept the fact that any society where Muslim is present, there is always religious war from Indian to Africa, Christians not being the only enemy. Then there is nothing more logical explanation to jusitify their religious hatred towards anybody who IS NOT muslim. Ask  why they breed hatred even towards the "non infedials", these so called liberal Muslims in Europe and USA, blabber a lot of nonsense and will always try to get away from the point, mostly diverting to Middle East. What have the Indians in Mumbai being killed got to do with Middle East? What they do not see the irony of their life style. Enjoying the sunshine of Western demoracry and hiding behind the shadow of freedom of speech, they try to justify wearing of hijab and honor killing with few rational explanation "We denounce it" and do nothing about it. Living the France and defending honor killing is easy except "YOU ARE IN FRANCE", go live in Pakistan, you woman, and see the if you'll miss France.

I have no problem with Islam, only the extremists.

Educational Institute(?) where children are taught to use UNDERWEAR for other purposes.

The Moeslem people entirely seems to be punished by their God due to the extrememe radical doings and dismay to  negligence of their holy verses from their God. Being these  religious claimed originated from the sky from the medieval times, it has getting a long in world history as it profound later on post-downstream  than ealier ancient Hindus.

Hinduism with its very own metaphysics acclaimed and  proven been the source catalyst of all consciences of religious affiliated movement since the beginning of Veda`s time in memorial. Dated to this moment also long ago before the Moeslem Islam was worships, it is claimed that it was Lord of Universe, none other than the Istadevata of the Supreme Lord Shiva as God Surya MahaDeva in the forms of Shiva Lingga surround by Nine planets that resembles of nine stones been presides and divinely worships by pilgrims that visited Kaaba/ Mecca during the premedieval periods before Islam came in  radiants.....was blatantly destroyed by their ancestor ~Prophet Abraham  destroyed idols and statues worshipped by his own father and by his community. See the Qur’ân 21: 57 – 58 ....

With the alarming notes of this openning cabin-schools or madrasa Moeslem in the  constitutes of beginning now of  eight percent of Moeslem or more out of  the total population in Nepal, these development movement must be taken into consideration seriously and carefuly on behalf of our MotherNepal and world statuory of Temple heritage of Hinduism as a resourceful consciences avail  / left precisely only in Nepal ( eg: Vishnu Kranti, Lumbini`s footage silalekhas`s ,Stupas and many more...) is in danger  as the latest happening that concerns Moeslems has provokes world community are now in triggers as the radicals demolishing of Buddhist statues in Afghanistan by the Moeslems lately......