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greenzerk
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Posted on 03-06-13 1:26
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magorkhe1
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Posted on 03-06-13 1:40
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Probably ?
For sure, even those bicycle vegitables vender who came from Bihar now speak fluent Newari may carry Nepali passport some of the Tarai district.
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greenzerk
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Posted on 03-06-13 1:46
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@magorkhe1 Looki chhipi hunthyo aba ta niyam nai banaayera dina thaale, tesaile wakka lagyo malai ta.
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Posted on 03-06-13 2:03
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Nothing wrong to provide citizenship to decents of naturalized citizen of Nepal. Hami pani ta america aayera naturalize nai hunchhau ta, ani hamro decents le pani ta citizenship nai pauchhan.
yaha america ma pani manchhe fake political asylum gardai chhan ta, just for the sake of green card and citizenship. it is the same principal.
what hate when someone wants to immigrate to Nepal. Do we get the same hate in the US?
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himalmt
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Posted on 03-06-13 2:11
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did accord just compared Nepal to USA? effing hilarious!
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greenzerk
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Posted on 03-06-13 2:45
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Hello Accord,
1.You are talkin abt fake asylum, yes u will get it as long as u belong to some countries whose population in USA is so negligible or within a quota. Americans balance the number of population allright? Thats the reason thr is no DV for India and China(they r just examples there might be other countries as well). So even in USA they dun allow u to have GC if u violate the population balance, aite? Only indians(specially biharis) are going to Nepal to get citizenship, please take that into mind.
2. Secondly, do you know policy of india, they inject population to foreign countries to control politics and business, which they r not able to do in USA, they will get their ass back to INDIA but in the poor countries like Nepal, u can imagine.
3. The other thing as @himalmt mentioned u cant just compare US and Nepal, u just cant. In any terms, economic? geopolitical? open border? dude u must be kiddin.
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NALAPANI
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Posted on 03-06-13 5:29
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Same thing happened in sikkim. India helped influx of people of nepalese root to sikkim first, bargained with Chogyal to allow nepalese people take part in politics. In 1973, first, 8th Gorkha regiment raided at Chogyal's palace and deposed him and later India help conduct a "militarized" referendum when sikkimese leaders of nepalese descent became instrumental in annexation of Sikkim to India. Nepal is going through same route but without any military intervention. Our PRAJATANTRIK, GANATANTRIK and AGRAGAMANKARI leaders are helping this.
Yesto sthiti dekhera hami ke nai po garna sakchhau ra? Tulutulu heryo basyo.
P.S. Annexation of Sikkim was the first "big" job of RAW.
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Posted on 03-06-13 5:52
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Dear friends, the fault lies with us, our nepalese leaders. No use blaming india all the time. And sikkim is a happy place, i have been there. They live as proud indians.
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NALAPANI
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Posted on 03-06-13 6:02
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Freedom
Probably you saw only nepalese people who look happy did you talk with any Lepcha or Bhutia what they think about 73? Yes, Sikkim is definitely a happy place an I too have been there many times. Tara je bhae pani aafno identity ta gumayo ni haina?
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freedom2012.
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Posted on 03-06-13 6:12
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@nalapani
I did not see anyone complain and i did spend time there. Anyways, my point is that, I always see Sikkim brought up, but the sikkim people themselves never have brought this up about being invaded by India. I am not saying what India did was right, i am just saying Sikkim seems to be content with what happened.
So i guess, a Sikkim person should answer the identity question. :) Bro, i am not undermining the questions you are raising. They are perfectly valid and i support you. I do not blame India one bit. When SSB rapes our sisters, and occupies our land, I blame our Army and police. Bro, it is high time we admit, the problem was never India. It is actually our leaders who sell Nepal.
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freedom2012.
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Posted on 03-07-13 12:17
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Recently many bangladeshis were also caught with nepalese passports. IT seems some minister is getting rich by selling nepalese citizenship as these things cannot happen without some minister's approval. They charge a few lakhs for the passport.
I am not a royalist, but since the king went, things have just gone downhill for Nepal. This is the worst times for Nepali nationality.
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paradox
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Posted on 03-07-13 7:55
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It is less dangerous than the Cristianity, communism, and islam getting Nepali Citizenship!!!
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greenzerk
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Posted on 03-07-13 2:56
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Do you guys have any plan that wud help us or u just blame each other like [Disallowed String for - bad word]in retard politicians? guys do u really get satisfied by tht? I know we cant stop them but is thr any idea tht wud help them discourage? If we make people aware Wud that discourage? Indian government is bawaal re okay i agree but how abt those black ass dhotis? cant we discourage them wht they r doing? is it so easy to dominate nepalese like tht? lets think abt tht n pls lets not look back n blame each other, lets see forward n lets do some brainstorm wht would be helpful n we can pass these ideas to Nepal n our brother n sisters, our parents would know whts happening. how abt tht? i might be too much worried but isnt it a matter of worry? think abt it.
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freedom2012.
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Posted on 03-07-13 3:11
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@greenzerk bro,
yes the problems are worrying, but there is little we can do. The politicians are chosen by the people and they rule. They are willing to do anything for the chair. If anything, we citizens can choose a good leader who is patriotic, but who shall we choose?.
Your choice is as good as mine. Mohan Baidya talks nice but i am sure he is also same like other once he gets the chair. So maybe bring in the king again?. All NEpalis should vote for a patriotic leader then these problems will be solved. I would give my vote to the king, not necessarily because he is good, but he will do something patriotic at least. And the Army should rule for the time being.
More than anything, Nepal needs a patriotic leader at present.
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magorkhe1
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Posted on 03-07-13 3:14
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One day a certain population may demand to merge into India. They may or might ask for a referendom? It can be happen.
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Posted on 03-07-13 4:05
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This is not new ,it already happend when they issue citizenship to bunch of biharis and bangladeshis who crossed the border not long ago ,reason is the madeshi leaders support this idea coz they will be the one getting their votes and another reason our government is a joke.
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greenzerk
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Posted on 03-07-13 4:40
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@freedom bro,
India used King Tribhuwan and Nepal too much, So King Mahendra started to introduce China card to check n balance Indian bully.
Birendra tried continued support it and was in a campaign of making nepal peace zone so that no one could touch nepal but indians killed Birendra So his plan was unsuccesful. King Gyanedra tried to bring China to the SAARC and he was thrown as he did not surrender to india. They love the soil, they die for it as King Birendra did. So if we get King back that would be better.
Recently chinese ambassador has been pulled off before his tenure was over(that means china is serious) and replacing him with the expert in external security. Indian Nepal chhirnu bhaneko Tibet ma problem ho , China chup chhaina it is doing its thing, we just have some patience, lets see how how the political course develops.
So In my opinion(i might be wrong), Chinese counter part once comes into play, things shud get better. I am just waiting china to do sth.
aba monarchy farkyo bhane feri arko babbal hunchha, tesaile i m like not in so much favor of it right now, kati violence herne yo deshle?
Maobaadi is also not really listening to India these days becasue Nepal has become a playground for everyone US, EU India is not the only player in this context, we have to understand this very clearly, So the opinion like "India gets whatever it wants it" is wrong. India also has lot of problem of communist now (probably the same fire they used to burn Nepal is also burning them i guess.) if you burn ur neighbors' home then it will catch ur home as well. Now look at poverty in bihar, communism is spreading like uncontrollable weeds.
There is a question, today we have Nepal as a playground, there r some forces who wants to spread this playground to Tibet. but what if we could shift this playground to Bihar? Who knows? Do you remember we used to solve the equation? this is one of the politics. I also dont see it fair to blame politicians always becasue whatever we have is them, we dont deserve barack obama.
Lets see how it goes.
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freedom2012.
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Posted on 03-07-13 4:58
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Some patriots might not like what i am about to say but the above feelings came from the 5% in me who thinks like a Nepali. The other 95% of me does not really care whether Nepal goes to India or China or USA. Once my understanding of life changed, my questions and priorities have also changed. The 95% of me lives by the rules below,
1) Land belongs to noone. Boundaries were set by men not God.
2) Live and let live. You be happy, let others be happy. Give freedom to be happy. Everyone has the right to be happy.
3) Do not be a burden to mother Earth.
4) I am a global citizen, the universe belongs to all of us.
5) Do unto others as you want others to do unto you.
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rethink
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Posted on 03-07-13 5:37
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Freedom I agree with everything you said in addition to one more point. 6) Do not preach religion. If you preach you are assuming others are stupider than you to figure out what they want by themselves.
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freedom2012.
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Posted on 03-07-13 6:45
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People are free to preach. People are free to listen. Rather it should be "Do not impose your religion on me." As i live in a country where Xmas is their public holiday, no problems in listening to their story.
When groups come knocking to my house, i politely smile and decline and they go away. I have listened a few times. I do not see anything wrong in preaching. I have shared good things about hinduism with christian colleagues also.
All religions have something good that one can learn from.
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