LMAO...

@ sojhoketo..... Honesty can be measured from different angles. You seem to understand it as if your wife has sex with some other guy then she is not honest with you. At the same time, you are not honest with your wife by not providing the freedom she deserves. If you love her, you must let her free. Where there is limitation, there is bondage and slavery. If you want to make your wife a slave of your desires and your version of reality aka "honesty based on sex' then good luck !

The state of mind which I am talking about requires many years of intense practice of contemplation and concentration. It is not about being cool by letting your wife have sex with some other guy. For yogis, sex is like taking a shower. Why should I make big deal out of it? Let her take the shower whenever she wants ! For yogis, this body is merely a cloth where all blissful Atma dwells. Rest is all dream. Do I care about dreams? Absolutely not.

@ujl
based on your explanation, i come to this understanding that your mother has always been, your wife still is and your daughter forever will be taking a shower wherever they want
and you are the one who is providing a material for them to take a shower..
cool..

@sohoketo......for a Yogi, there is no difference between crying and laughing. Both are same for a Yogi. This world exists only in the mind! In other words, this world is nothing but sex and ego; when you move beyond your mind, you become a Yogi whose mind is cooler than the ice !!

@ujl
your wife must be a very lucky one as her husband seems to be cooler than the ice as he ain't have a problem even she takes a shower as many times as she likes to..
should saja's horny jerks know of your wife, there would be a race for taking a shower.. well make sense as there is a huge shortage of resources for a shower..LMAO
@sajha mitra jan ho...ujl yogi le world lai nai shower banauna atyo.. :)

don't need to harass ppl, we got ur point.
you both are good in your own places.

Ujl, you are gifted to explain complex concepts in simplest form. I specially liked your post on Bedic people vs. blind Hinduism rituals. I think you should start a blog to help people in this confusing world.

haha
@bittertruth

no idea how come ppl are being harassed..
anyways!! wasn't referring you as sajha's horny jerk..:)
@yogi mahasaye..hajurko ta follower pani sajha mai raican..glad to know of it..

one segment,
i used to get a spam in my yahoomail(no wonder it's in yahoo) until i deleted my yahoo mail, the content of the spam email used to be somewhat like "hey! let's meet to have a casual fun. Well! I am a married woman. Just because my husband couldn't satisfy me and I have a high desire of sex, my husband is fine with me having sex with other guy as he really understands me. So, you should be fine with my husband watching when we are having sex" i kind of feel, this spam content is similar to @ujl yogi story.

anyways..
Everyone, I would like to extend my sincere apology if any of my comments on this thread or others was abusive and hideous...from my perspective none was.. :)
As a whole nothing is personal at all..
@ujl the way you explained theoretically, should you be able to remain cool like an ice practically in case you find your wife taking shower with someone else, i would for sure remark you as an unique yogi though still ain't be your follower as for me it violates the wonderful relationship of husband and wife.

I can smell your ego. It really smells bad! I gave all these examples just to elucidate that there is a fine line between "mind" and "super-mind" like there is a fine line between animals and humans. I do mind if my wife is actually a mean girl and will warn her if she doesn't follow cosmic law. But again, I will do all these things without being attached to the events. For yogis, the life is merely a cosmic drama, a magic product of self-referral consciousness within consciousness. Since there is nothing to lose and nothing to gain here, a yogi is calm in every situation. He, she, it doesn't exist for yogis. It is all pure consciousness.

Remember, when you cut your hand, you start bleeding. Then your body immediately starts the healing process. Your body does not discriminate you during the healing process saying you are white, brown, Chinese, Nepali, Indian, male, female, what you eat for dinner etc. Body doesn't have these kinds of ideas which in fact are absurd! It simply knows, when there is a cut, it must heal it no matter what. Why does body function that way? It is because there is Niyati (Cosmic Order). This is an example of how super-mind works. The creative intelligence which I am talking about is beyond logical reasoning.

I totally agree that it sound absolutely weird that how can a man still live with his wife when he finds his wife is having sexual affair with someone else. First of all, a yogi who is established in transcendental awareness can read your mind. A yogi can weigh whether his wife is really a mean girl or is she having sex with others because she is not been able to control her moods/emotions/passions and whether she is willing to bring changes in future. Always remember, a real Yogi follows Cosmic Constitution which governs the entire universe. A yogi is willing to accept his wife even after she commits adultery because they are "ocean of mercy" which sounds absurd in present capitalistic society where people are running after unreal objects in vain.
Final clarification, yogi measures thing not by your present capitalistic standards, but follows strictly the cosmic constitution which governs the entire universe.

haha!
@ujl how does my ego smell? smell like a bull shit or yogi shit?
i know you ain't find any difference ..you'll say it ain't matter bull shit...dog shit or yogi shit..all smells the same..and you're the only capable of smelling all shit through the principle of your cosmic law, cosmic constitution, cosmic consciousness, creative intelligence..
hey @ujl why yogi should mind and warn if his wife is mean, the term mean doesn't exist in cosmic law, does it? haha!!

Abraham Lincoln once said, "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one’s mouth and remove all doubt."

@ sojhoketo...... That's hilarious !! Peace be with you.

@IDK2013 Abraham Lincoln once said == clinical depression = due to loss of his sons

'i prefer hatred over love for accepting the truth rather than supporting the false, as consequences of following the path of truth leads me to achieve self enlightenment whereas the other, eventually pushes me to the suffocation of darkness'
- sojoketo :)

Good luck to you

@ujl
YES! speaking against something that one strongly believe is wrong is indeed hilarious act of the one, nevertheless the other uses the same term as sarcasm. :)
moksha be with you

remembah,
if you are single, someone is already fcking your future wife,
if you are married, someone may/may not fck ur wife in the future,(well the title of this post proved this 2nd statement of mine already wrong)
so, if we carry ujl's way of viewing things, acceptance, .. any trauma will not be that bad at all. rather it'd be a soul interaction than physical, don't be a slave to your 5 senses, it causes problems, whole lot of ego and mental problems. if you are basing your comments on some of our elderly couple who had lived wonderful life of togetherness, well.. it's good.. we must appreciate their dedication.. we also must be open to new ideas where I see nothing wrong rather than ridicule.

Every rose has its throne every cowboys has its sad sad song

While all this discussion is happening, the OP appears very quiet. No further portrayal of the health of their current relations, their history of incidents..no nothing. Is it just a imagined scenario?

The thread certainly did fool our bichara sojoketo. :):) That's about it.

But it's good to engage ourselves in these discussions, be it hypothetical. What are the positions of husband and wive in a relation! How much of respect for each other there exists! If somehow, they grow apart do they pursue their paths respectfully without demeaning each other! Or can act civil, still be friends while respecting the difference!

I think this is what this thread offers us to ponder upon.

@bittertruth
don't know whom you're referring but the sentence sounds vulgar and bit abusive to woman race..
'if you are single, someone is already f... your future wife'
isn't it humiliation of a woman? and that applies to your sister and wife too?

so let's have some respect for a lady who is mother..sister..wife and daughter..

No f work, no abusive word for a woman
unless it's the woman who prefer adultery over husband love and respect.

@ujl yogi opinion towards is 'it's just taking shower'. If you prefer the same, good luck

@IDK2013
You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.
- Abraham Lincoln

@IDK2013, if you think I have been fooled, I am just smiling like a YOGI.
As a whole, I enjoyed this conversation though it is against my opinion and eventually I have been staged as a fool.
यो युग मा सिधा साधा असल सरल भलाद मी सोझा लाई धुर्त बाठा हरुले मुर्खको संज्ञा त दिन छन्. :)

sojoketo is a hypocrite. He uses words like "bull shit," "Yogi Shit" and he even said this: "based on your explanation, i come to this understanding that your mother has always been, your wife still is and your daughter forever will be taking a shower wherever they want."

And this guy is talking about "humiliation" of women. It's like a meat-eater is talking about animal rights ! Quite an irony here !

haha!!
@ujl, bullshit and yogi shit, that's just the term to match the context not using as vulgarity

and the other sentence
was in response in defense of moral character of woman(being respectful to woman)
as you mentioned that for yogis having sex is like taking shower and married woman(wife) should have a freedom to have shower with anyone she likes.
that was offending to woman character. no honest/decent wife will agreed your saying, neither any husband.
relations of husband and wife(life partner) is not only physically bound..else it wouldn't have referred as soul mate.
having shower with anyone is crossing the boundary for both husband and wife..even for yogis like you.. :)

still, @ujl, my sincere apology to mother, wife, sister and daughter if any of my sentences has exceeded the boundary line. even my sincere apology to you if you feel like i am pointing to your mother,wife and daughter..

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