Nepal has seen several revolutions since 1950s but every elected government bodies have failed to keep their promises. Sacrifices have gone in vain. We nepalese know well by now party system do not function well and we always hope after every election Nepal will turn over a new leaf! We are dreaming similar dream again. The new govt. is trying to find a new guy for president and Mr.Nepal is on the top of the list (I think I am gone deaf). They turned down Harvard Graduate Ambassador for the president. My question -

1. Are we not ready for intellectuals to run the country?

2. Are we not tired of illiterate politicians? For example - let's ask the forest and soil minister = what is a ecosystem and what is a soil profile? I guarantee he will stumble.

BTW I am still waiting for answers for my previous questions. Come on guys, u can answer them.

More questions coming ur way.

Enjoy 

     Father KANCHU

      I don’t think your argument is deep (if mine is shallow). Do you think you have brain only? The governments of Nepal always run by those kinds of people who has brain in your language. All of them are dhani batha ra padheka you think garib napadheka ra sojha haru kahile satta ma aaye?

People like you are the problem in our system always. If you come to Nepal and see around the winner of election you will see people like you. Sandhe (Bull) ko jharla ra khaula bhanera ghumiraheka.

         

        I had just put the example of gothala to prove that who knows the country better they can run the country and you thought that I mean gothala run the country. Manda buddi bhanchan tyaslai.  

                                                           And

 

       You need to know that education means not only go to school and get the degree.

Go to villages of Nepal and learn about it, do research, share the experience collect the data, write the thesis you probably get the PHD from university. This kind of work they are always doing in their life.

samsara,

i know common nepalese struggle day in day out to make their ends meet. but there is a reason for that - again lack of education. tell me who has the most kids? low-paid workers such as rickshaw pullers/peons etc. its the same scenario eveywhere. once u have kids, u have to feed them. and to feed them, u have to work hard. and when u work hard u have no time for school and education teaches u the consequences of wrong decisions. but in context of Nepal, we cannot afford to send our kids to school plus we have argarian culture that means more kids means more hands in the field. still eductaion can open our eyes and may stick to two kids.

its not fair to compare nepal with kerela. it is a state while we are a country. the commies are controlled by the central govt. of India not kerela only. plus i will focus on Nepal's richness in my future questions.

keep sending ur thoughts and views 

jhakhanlal,

now u are talking!

i am and did everything that u have written and plan to it for the rest of my life.

Ma auta garib ra pichadiyeko barga ko manche. Mero pratinidhitwa garib ra pichadiyeko manche le nai garna sakcha na ki America ma basera Nepal banauchu bhanne manche le. Mero samasya mero barga ko manche lai tha cha. aaja samma dhani ra padhelekheka manche le nai nepal ko satta chalaye tara aaba ti din jadaichan.

Mero neta lai uneducated bhanera hochyaune kam nagarnus. tapai haru Nepal farkine hoina mero bichar ma. nepal america ko dajoma aajhai 100 barsa pugdaina ra tapai ko jiban bitcha tyahi. AMERICA banauna lagnus tapaiharu educated people. aage tapaiharu ko ichha.

jakhanlal,

who is ur neta and i think nobody is trying to defame ur neta! nepal educated mancheharule chalayeko bhaye aja kina yesto hunthyo. educatioon level ma pani bharparcha mitra. u know a saying that goes 'little knowledge is very dangerous'. ani Nepal ma nai basera Nepal bancha bhanne bhanai pani teti zor chaina. we can use the resources of US to work in Nepal.

and u say Nepal is just 100 yrs behind US? please do some research and correct your statistics.

Don’t get me wrong either. I knew about country.

1. Nepal is poor because of bikau neta like …… (I don’t wanna named), Monarchy, family rulers and the government of those people who has every things in their life.  
2. There is no planning for poor people by state.
3. The problem of the garbage is because of those people in government who has no touch with the people of land field area and no good disposal solutions.
4. Because of Road and transportation department’s people (probably they are educated isn’t it). They never did their jobs.
5. People are not happy because always the government was run by those people who has no sense of hummers with the people of real Nepal.      

jakhanlal,

fyi, i came from very remote part of nepal. i used to walk to school wearing only half panbt and chappal. I had to cross the river, in rainy season, we all used to get so scaredand we all kids used to join hands together to cross the river so that no one is swept away. you are telling me to visit remote nepal..yeah you are still son! kid i have been and seen nepal more beyond your imagination so..u stop it..and people in US work hard and no one would wait " sandhe ko ful jharla ra khaunla"..that may only apply to you..goodluck for that..

Son! you are telling me uneducated people can contribute to the nation ..yes they certainly can, but when it comes to actual leadership, that too for 21st centuray, you would need educated people...leadership is not only about politcal leadership, look at the business sector, banking sector...who are there ?? it is just  in politcs few selfish and currupt people and puppet of india, are sucking nepal. but that does not mean we should replace them by uneducated people. and do not give that shit, if that just because you are in nepal you know nepal better...that is often argued by " loser" only..

btw, samsara yes i do agree keral had communist govt, but on the other hand some indicators like life expectancy rate, child mortality rate, gdp etc are at par with  with the developed country. i read this amartya sen's " freedom as development" which he has illustrated example of kerala well, unfortunately in nepal, communist are like butchers and other parties are bunch of " criminals" ..so we do not have any option. and now it is total chaos...

this is why i gave up!

mr boka,

1. why they became bikau? and who let it happen??

2. I do not get it. u mean proper planning will uplift livelihood of people - how??

3. u mean people working for municipality do not possess enough knowledge to find a land fill! what do you think they require to find a solution?

4. u mean 'sense of homour' is required to build a nation. that's it. i don't buy it, man. u gotta be more specific and convincing.

discussion is good. so keep on doing it.

what do you trying to prove? You have big knowledge and all other has no?

1. Are we not ready for intellectuals to run the country?

Who is the intellectuals? Those who are run behind leader to get "kamau  khalko kam" 

2. Are we not tired of illiterate politicians? For example - let's ask the forest and soil minister = what is a ecosystem and what is a soil profile? I guarantee he will stumble.

Did you know what you are saying in your 2nd point? That's why you are saying "little brain is dengerious"

Mitra tapailai tapai le padheko subjectma quistions garo bhane fail huna ber chaina aahile.

I think the following reasons serve more to keep us the way we are
-  We don't have natural resources
-  We aren't strategically located to attract international business firms
-  Low motivation for industrial development ( things come easily from India and China ) , hence low export

As for the politicians and bureaucrats; they are screwed up everywhere.

jhakhanlal,

now now don't get hyper here. i am not trying to prove anything but try to keep the discussion flowing. learning, experience, knowledge acquiring never cease until we die.

i am not saying i know everything but do know some.

u can ask me questions. i will try to answer.

i know what i asked in the 2nd point. it is about ministers we have who do not have the knowledge and know the meaning of the positions they are holding. i gave example of soil and forest. we have tourism ministers who doesn't know the meaning of tourism.

bring it on, man and keep the discussion going.

F22,

oh! we have plentiful natural resources and attractions that can lure the rest of the world. we have been successful in doing that but there is a big 'BUT'...

our politicians including that of rest of asia are screwed.

if u want, i can explain more on the natural resources.

enjoy and thanks for hopping in the bandwagon.

Unicornis,

Please explain on natural resources.  I know its asking a lot, but if time permits also include some conceptual thoughts on using it for economic development.  Thanks for the bandwagon; jumping on the bandwagon is my favorite passtime.

F22,

thanks for asking. Nepal falls in 25 biodiversity hotspots. a hotspot is such a place that harbors globally threatened floral and faunal species. topographically, Nepal is divided into 3 distinct belts or regions - terai, midhills and mountians due to which each region has different vegetation, climate and wildlife. another natural resource is our river systems. we have ~ 6000 rivers/streams that has ~ 80,000 KW elcectric capacity. even if could tap 40% of it we would be rich. right now we are tapping less than 5%. no wonder we have rediculous load sheddings.

plus we have two landmarks - Mt.Everest and Lumbini that has attracted tourists from all over the world. nepal attracted more than 300,000 tourists during 1990s with its spectacular mountains and unique wildlife especially our rhino. but million dollar question  = where does the money go?

i can explain more but have to take a break. join u guys later.

enjoy

unicornis bro,

I disagree with your statement that there are no opportunities....There are opportunities otherwise how are Indians making money off of Nepal....Most people are not aware of business opportunities in Nepal....Think about the fertilizer that we apply to our fields what if we manufactured it in Nepal rather than getting it from India....What if textile industry moved to villages where people make their living by waving rather then a city where Banda's and unions are always a problem...How about producing feed in Midhill to supply to the mountains and midhill of nepal...the list goes on.... Then you might say security...Well if you are making a profitable business by doing these things that you can lobby local group for protection by providing them incentives (money, and insurance) or lobby with the government or start your own industry security firm ( we have so many retired Gorkhas and youths available)....

Also in Nepal there are many places where due to insufficient irrigation facility food production is low....How about some industrious Nepali engineer find a sustainable way to supply these area with water and take some profit....Isn't that what engineers do find a problem and build solutions....These ideas among others are common sense....

Nepal hero bro,

Opportunities have different meanings. What u are saying is already there and these are short term benefits. And we need chemicals to make fertilizers and again we have to import from India. Planting textile industries in every nooks and corners would help the locals to some extent but how about fresh graduates from colleges with all kinds of degrees? We do have plenty of US graduates mostly in IT/accounting/business and PhDs in other fields. But is Nepal ready to embrace them? No not yet. Nepal do not have the ability to supply the jobs to Nepalese graduates let alone for us. This is why there is a massive brain and manpower drain.

Indians are clever and they grabbed the opportunity and established their business such as Golcha/Chaudary groups. i think their business expansion have staurated by now.

On the other hand, u talk about sustainability. We are running out of space to plant crops (it is the scenario in every part of the world), popualtion is growing and very soon we have to import rice etc.

so my honest opinion is unless and until we build the infrastructure such as roadways, strenghten IT,tourism and other industries, and use donations wisely we are heading towards doomsday steadily. and to achieve this, we need skilled and educated manpower with a solid work ethic.

enjoy

Nice to go through a productive thread after a really long time. Let me start off with thanking ya'll for all the things, i did feel the insights of few of the members in the discussion. I am not a scholar, but i guess putting my thoughts in would not hurt anyone.

Nepal is still primitive, the primary focus of the Govt should be basics. Start with the basics. Focus more on infrastructures, make it easier for students to go to school, to go give their SLC examination, provision for higher education, electricity, build the god damn roads, lemme see the Melamchi project running before I die and the list would never end.

For all of this to happen, we need to have a better system of checks and balances, need to make reports more public, need a commission to overlook the commission, need to enforce judicial branch.

We need to get money from forein bodies for wotever project we need to start!! If all the grants that we got were loans, our country would be always be in a panic, never come out of it. And even the help we receive hardly reaches down to wot it was actually for.

We need to tighten and collect all the due taxes, property taxes, vehicel taxes, income taxes; we need to raise the penalties and fines, bond fees. Collect all the dues owed to the Govt Authorities by ministers, KING, Mayors, n everybody...............

WE NEED TRY N BE AS MUCH SELF DEPENDANT AS POSSIBLE, though it is not really possible right at the moment, but I would love to see at least some development in my lifetime.

Jai Desh Jai Ganesh :P

unicornis bro on agriculture aspect, I think u got the wrong impression....We still have a lot of space we just don't have irrigation facility which is why our production is low... We also don't have people who are willing to farm....In that case what my idea was to buy this food producing land and then to have a farmer who is willing to take care of it to do so with profit sharing....

http://www.nepalitimes.com/issue/399/NepaliPan/14780

Look through this article and there are other ones....

Road way and other infrastructure is a great idea but again if you only have the middle class benefiting....meaning someone who can afford a farm will be able to make use if the road and the not poor farmers....There has to be a purchasing power capabilities with the poor so they can also reap the benefits...The profits can also be used to cater the infrastructure for the farmer along with other middle class....

Nepal Hero bro,

Glad the discussion is going strong. I urge everyone to google 'CIA Factbook, Nepal'. this site provide all the info about any country that trange from geography to economy to population.

Nepal is ~147,000 sq km in size - a lot smaller then the island of Madagascar (just comparision). ~80% of Nepal's land is rugged terrains, ~ 20% is terai. where is the most concentration of the population? obviously terai. so we have ~ 20% of land that is arable and ur plan is to boost agriculture to feed the whole nation. we already have 76% labor force in agriculture that shows, our land productivity has reached the peak. terrace farming in the midhills contributes something but it is contributing plenty to soil erosion. the major of soil erosion is the loss of top soil which is the most fertile one for crops. this is why bangladesh delta is rich and fertile.

again if u ask me and most people agrees with me, we have to build our infrastructure and for that we need money and skilled manpower. if i was given any respectable position, i would push 'ecotourism' to a great length cause we have top eight mountains and rhino to attract any tourist. this is the practice of sustainability or it is a win win situation. we don't have to clear our forests or irrigate our rivers dry. we have to monitor the revenue very closely and with this very revenue we can boost other sectors such as hydropower. with the revenue, we can pave airstrips in the mountain and terai regions so tourist don't have to travel 5-6 hrs in a bus to get to see rhino. again, to achieve this, we need educated personnels who knows the definition of tourism, knows computer and hot tools like GIS and remote sensing. it all boild to only one thing = eductaion!!