Hello All Nepali people,

The following is the link of Mumbai meri Jaan (2008) that says Nepal was a part of India. It's not just CC2C that's bullying Nepal. Watch the following link from between 3rd minute of the clip till 4th minute. I am not tellling you guys to come to the street and break the glasses. I am just requesting all the nepali to fight for our rights in proper way. It's time we show some unity and do something good to stop India's bullying to Nepal. Here is the linkc (watch from 3.00 minutes to 3.55 minutes)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k6GmB928CJFE8tK11p

this clip said that all those nations were part of India back then and that was "Akhanda Bharat" (holy crap!) and which was snatched from them. damn when was Nepal a part of India? oops Not india, "Akhanda bharat"?? geographically these parts were never one, India, Pakistan and bangladesh were one country before, but later got disintegrated.. Nepal was divided into small parts/countries and even India too.

Issue raised here is worth pondering, and I agree that this doesnt mean that we go out in street and protest for this, stop the traffic, No, neva do that, just sharing these information with each other n thinking n working for the unity of the nation, is wat initiater of this thread expected and I agree with bhusiakukur's comment. Plz do not use foul words as that depicts how reatarded and loser u r. Jus a genuine opinion of urs is wat we all expect. Give a shout, u dont need to scream and yell ur names on this forum.. why cant we work for the creativity of the nation, why vandalizing ourselves. Think abt it.

Harek Nepali lai budhi, biwek aaos... Nepal ko Kalyan hos! jai Nepal!

This India/Nepal/Budhha/Kapilavastu/Bodhgaya/'stuffsaidonmovies' crap is crazy!

WHY USE MISGUIDED PATRIOTISM??????????????????????????????


Its shit like this that started the RIDICULOUS hritik roshan kanda!! remember that?? huh? well I happened to be in india (student) at the time being and you know what their reaction was when they heard this?

My friend (obviously indian) comes over to me and asks me "Do you guys really hate us so much?" What am I to say? Friend first or country? I say "well not me personally, just some people take it too seriously". And when the teacher came in and broke the news to the class, EVERYONE started laughing!! "Why are they so crazy? and the fact is Hritik Roshan didn't even say ANYTHING!" "What sheep!".. While I was trying to hold back my anger, I also couldnt help but feel they were right!.

No one had done anything, but due to "ek kaan dui kaan maidaan" everyone was boiled up over some non-existant matter!

Ris khau afu, buddhi khau aru!
Peace.

Hello All,

Let me clear few of the confusions going on. I read Atit's comment and found that he/she hasn't seen the clip properly. It doesn't talk abt subcontinent but has used those words Mr. Perfectionist has stated in this thread. Perfectionist, I totally agree with u. Good to see tht u understood the thing and the reason behind this thread. U have clearly stated your words and has strengthen this thread.

And to all frens, let me tell u a thing. This thread isn't abt arrising agression on you but on raising awareness abt wht's going on. The question is tell when? Till when will all these bull shits go on?

There's no point in vandalising the public property or burning cinema halls in Nepal. Destryoing our property for others will b making fool of ourself. We should go by peace and approach some different yet strong approach. We got to do this. If not us, who will?

I agree tht there might be many other issues to bring forward. We will certainly do our best. Change begins from us and we all are responsbile for better Nepal.  But I feel the issue tht has been coming up recently  isn't an issue tht should be kept silently as we are a soverign country and not under 'Akhanda Bharat's" rule.

thank u all.

 

 

 

 

hya dhoti haru testai ho..
kaam nalagne haru..
we were never a part of any 'dhoti muluk'..we are sovereign nation..and we know it well so dont care what they say..
alikati dimag bhako manchhe lai ta truth thaha hunchha k re aba dimag nai nabhako lai ta kehi gare ni samjhauna sakkina..so let it be..ullu haru le ta k k bhanchha k k..time waste kina garne testa ko barema sochera?
afno kaam garne khane.
**NO OFFENCES!!**

wow wow wow great ! what a news ! well i had nice previlege to watch that movie clip. I am so much surprised that so called genius indian film writer or dialogue writer does not know that india was part of nepal. Thats why nepal is the only hindu kingdom in the world. May be the Indian people do not know that once INDIA WAS PART OF NEPAL . we used to rule in india from everest. British invaded all over india but could not invade in the present nepal because of the Hills and Himalays. British people invaded then NEPAL starting from NOW INDIA  thats how they came upto the Nalapani Killa. Guys don't worry these indian movie makers are trying to take of the advantage of weak governemnt in Nepal. They are in game plan to spread the rumors that Nepal was part of India which is infact harmful for themselves. Now the question arises that is the indian government not aware of these things? Yes they know everything. During the censorship they check everything which shoudl be edited or which not but its really surprised matter that indian censor board gave permission that means indian government is also involved in this game plan. Its a very simpel way to think.

Guys I think we nepalese people need to produce couple of nepali clips or movie that proves nepal's independency and free sovergnity. I know what ever i said above is just my opinion but if we are determined to our opinon we can prove that How big nepal was. like Greater Nepal.

But please lets just not destroy public property in the name of protests.

 

 

full maya girija prasad ko chora jasto cha :D nepal lai bechera india banauna thulo sadyantra rachi rako ! HMM!!??

As far as i remeber darjelling and kalingpong was part of Nepal :D. correct me if i spelled wrong!! Kathmandu mero Jan

all politcian are fawking morons....should be executed.....

Sathi haru,

I am little confused with one thing (should i say a statement). Was lumbini once a part of India? Did Nepal took tht from India? Nikhil Advani says sorry to Nepalese  for CCTC but then he says tht Lumbiini was once of India and thus they said buddha was born in India in tht movie. Watch the following clip. He says sorry but invities another controversy. (Watch the following clip from 3.25 minutes onward............ thank u all)

http://www.bollywoodhungama.com/broadband/video/Court-Martial/Kkmvqc65/3/Nikhil-Advani-Defends-The-Criticism-Of-Chandni-Chowk-To-China.html

Bhusiyakukur,
Like you many Nepali grow up without some basic knowledge of world history to even compare if the fact is true or not. Using your common sense, you can answer a lot of doubt. I've not seen the movie nor do I care to read all the postings, interview etc etc. Anybody can claim anything. I rely on scholars writing and research.
Before 500 BC, the world did not have too much history, borders and written scripts, if any, were primitive. The Greeks were the most advanced civilization during those period in the West, at least they have clear records of the time period. On the Asian side, present day Chinese were the most advanced.
With that set aside, no matter what India claims about their civilization, during the period of Buddha, there was no concept of a unified India (Bharat) nor there was Nepal. There were simply many kingdoms.One of them was Nanda Empire on the norther border of present day India, it included Nepal and Bihar state. Around 320 BC, Chandragupta (grandfather of Ashoka) started the Maurya dynasty and took over Nanda and spread around a few more territoy. Then came Asoka who was the first one to unite India all the way except of the souther tip near modern day Kerala. Yes, we were part of modern day India during the Maurya dynasty.
Now coming to the point, 3 hundred years before Askoa, Buddha was born. At that time, there was no concept of a unified India. Before the Nanda Empire, there was no India, period. Buddha was born before the Nanda Empire. So to claim that Buddha was born in India is nothing but India flexing their power.
Here's something to think about and compare with your common sense and logic.
Jesus Christ was born in Jerusalem and it was under the rule of the Romans. If asked, where Jesus was born, everybody will answer "Jerusalem" and NOT "Rome". Technically according to the India's logic, Jesus was born in Rome, Italy. It does not matter how the past (which of course is very blurry....remember, history is always written by the powerful group over the other) relate to an incident, what matters is PRESENT. Lumbini is in PRESENT day Nepal.

Rewire,

those were some informative facts........ It's not tht I didn't know anything abt it but then one of my fren was insisting tht lumbini used to fall in India as the N. Advani was stating in his interview. But i never new abt it and there isn't any evidence of tht in any websites.

Anwz, thnk u for ur information. Tht was great....And as u say, all tht matters is Lumbini is present day Nepal. We can safely and proudly say tht G. buddha was born in Nepal............

 

 

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=m5By3F0H-pw


watch this video to see what i have to say about the

CC2C - Buddha Nepal/India issue

Nepalese people should unite for greater issues.
such as the open border between India and Nepal which has led to encroachment of the Kalapani area and Susta

Mr. Rewire,
I am not a student of history but would like to disagree with on the statement that you have written Yes, we were part of modern day India during the Maurya dynasty.

As far as I know Nepal as a country was established by the Late King Prithvi Narayan Shah about 250 yrs ago. Even before that I can not remember a single name of Indian ruler ruling in Nepal. I have heard about baise and chaubise rajya or things like that.
Terai was not suitable for residence because of the Very dense forest and Malaria. Only people surviving there were tharu people and I can't believe that they were ruled by Indian Maurya dynasty Kings.

If I recall correctly, there was not even a single country called India before the British came there. British established The East India Company by combining countless small kingdoms within India. U can still find royal people in India who call themselves Raajput. So what India u r talking about that ruled Nepal???? Present day India were ruled by British, Goa and Southern states were governed by Portugese etc...

I don't know how long is the history of modern day India but it only started after the British left. And the places like Darjeeling, Sikkim, Kumau, Gadhawaal used to be Nepalese Territory where Nepal used to rule and Nepal lost to the then British in East India Company so after British left may be We should have got those lands back because that was not won by India it was the deal with British ruling over that part of the sub-continent.

Anyway this is how I feel. I may be wrong but upto now I stand by my this and hope I am right.
Have fun and Take care  :)

Namaskar,
Your time period of 250 years is way way way later. We're talking about 2500 years ago, at the time of Buddha.
You disagree on"Yes, we were part of modern day India during the Maurya dynasty"
Exactly....this is where we get f@@ked up.. Nepal has no written history to claim that we were a unified nation then, nor do we have any historical figure to back it up. The western history tells that the Ashoka claimed almost all land in the modern Indian continent, even drove the army of Alexander away fro the Hindu Kush. What are the chances that we not nabbed by Asoka. You give me a proof, and I'll beleive. Many changes occurred after Ashoka's period and his downfall. The fact India should have been a Buddhist county had Ashoka been there for a longer time or his newer generations were strong enough. I think Chanakye turned it into Hindu right after Asoka died. The unified Ashoka nation fell into pieces again into smaller kingdoms. So back to small kingdoms...My assumption is somewhere the line, we slipped off from them and became a distant land. Your time period of 2500-250=2250 years before Prithivi Narayan. That is one hell of long time, anything could have happened. If I'm not wrong, our Lichivi period (traces of it) starts around 1st century. If  that is the earliest history we have, we're still missing some puzzle of 500 years, from the birth of Buddha to Lichivi, did anybody that existed around that time in Nepal fought against the Mauryans? So far I remember, there is no evidence of any Lichivi king who unified or fought with any bigger opponent at that time, we simply have temples and monuments. Burden lies on us to prove that we were always independent. Independent right till our written history starts, what about before that? Simply we did NOT have history does not mean other civilization didn't exist.
Anybody with ancient Nepali history can shed some light on this?
I'm not a history major, simply learning to empower myself, still learning........

we shouldn't give the rat ass about what hindi movie has to say. why do we Nepalese watch hindi movie afterall?
do we really have to watch the hindi movies which degrades all nepalese?
do we have to listen to indian music and then protest against it?
ARE WE ALL NEPALESE SO DUMB???
IF YOU REALLY LOVE NEPAL THEN IT'S HIGH TIME THAT WE ALL NEPALESE BAN INDIAN MOVIES AND SONGS FROM PUBLIC?

Rewire

      New Flash for you Bro,



Chanakya was before Ashoka.. Chanakya was ChandraGutpa's Teacher, not only
that, Chanakya was the person who made Chandragupta the King of
PatilPutra(Patna) which was ruled by Nanda Dynasty (their kingdom was called Nanda Empire) and yes Nepal was there
during that time and played a vital role in the process of unification started
by Chankya.



Also, for your information, it wasn't Ashoka who fought with Macedonian King
the Mighty Alexander but it was ChandraGupta who went to war under the
leadership of Chanakya...(Chandragupta was a son of a shepard not from a Royal family, Chanakya made him the King of Nanda Empire)



And who told you it was only Greeks & Roman's who were advanced and civilized
than the people of the Indian subcontinent, just cause all the history of the
subcontinent was destroyed first by the invading Muslims than later the European’s..
Dude do you know what Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa are???



You need to get your facts straight.. Nepal
was never under any Indian Ruler, and no Ashoka never conquered whole of present day India, once he
became a fan of Buddha, hence his conquest to rule all of the present day
Indian Subcontinent Stopped.



Are you trying to Tell me the Epic Mahabharata and Ramayana is not true ( I
know events were exaggerated) in that case what Homer wrote is wrong too.. If
there was battle of Troy
than there was battle of Mahabharata..



Have you try to analyze anything, look at the culture of eastern Asian’s like
Burma, Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia, They were all Hindu Kingdom's.. All those
kings and kingdoms took participation in that Great War.

If you look at the drawings, wall paintings, the drama's they do in Thailand
and other countries around it, you will see they are recreating Ramayana, where
they have ram, sita, laxman, hanuman etc.



So for you to say there was No Nepal is wrong my brother, Nepal was there but not present day Nepal..
The valley was called Nepal
and it was the most powerful kingdom in the Himalaya's..



I can go on and on but you got the point..(just trying to educate in history, not trying to show off or anyting)

Chor

OK, you might have better knowledge of history around that area. But answer me, when did our Nepali written history start, Lichibi, Kirates etc. I thought they start from 1st century...I think it is wrong...they start around 6-7 the century...way late.If I'm wrong, let me know. You did not fill in the blank....who were the rulers of Nepal or if there were many parts of Nepal, who were they? I've got more question than answer. If we cannot answer, then of course, the Indians are going to say it was part of India.

"Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa are"....bro, we can go on and go...everybody thinks they were better than the other...I've read a bit about them.......nothing impressive in term of achievement (for those who want to read about it http://books.google.com/books?id=ibLUu6RlvqwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=india+history+keay#PPP1,M1) It is the oldest civilization discoverd around the Indian subcontient.

Have you heard about Santorini aka Atlantis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santorini ,Stonehence, and other neolithic civilization of Western Europe. The civilization of Santorini had discoverd concepts, ideas and science that the Greek could not even dream, but they did it 1500 year before the Greek. They had toilet with running water with ventilation on the 2nd floor. No other civilization had 2nd floor concept at those period. Forget about toilet. You can still take a tour of thoes houses if you visit that Island. Check out the pictures in the mean time. I'd like to take a trip or see the relics of Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa. Any recommendations?Every continent is escavating older and older civilization every year. No need to sweat over that. People do not worship Greek legends like Homer, Achilles nor Zeus like we do, they are old myth, even Bible claims they are just story. You're not going to say Ravan made the first aeroplane, are you?

I think you're misreading me, I'm on your side too...I hate the Indian claim. I am putting those historical facts on the table (right or wrong) so we can share the info with fellow Nepal and beaware of the facts, and not Bollywood films.

Bro, if you're so impressive about history...enlighten me with our history during the time of Buddha. Who, what and where were the people of Nepal doing during those periods. I'm not looking for "Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa" or any other Indian history. I'll prefer history around the pressent day Nepal but before BC. I've some blanks that needs to be filled. I'll truly appreciate that.

yo dhoti haru yestai ho.Kam paudainana ani aru country ko border michne ,aru ko country lai afno bhanne.chor haru. blady indian.britist haru kai gulam bhaye ra basnu parne yini haru.jai nepal

I am not surprised at all. Back in 1996 when i was doing my schooling in india, there were so many of my buddies who thought nepal is part of india. I dont know for some reason they thought nepal is another state like bengal, sikkim and all. I had to educated them, but funny part was they knew Bhutan was seperate country.

see, kuro yestai ho jo jasle j bhane pani nepal independent territory ta ho tara politically independent chaina, Delhi le aasirwad nadiye timi hamro neta PM huna paudaina .Timi hami jati jhagada garepani timro hamro atma samman badhne hoina ,hera saathi ho hijo j thiyo thika thiyo tara bholi bethik nahos hami hosiyar hunu parcha tara aajako dinle bholi saarai naramro huna sakne sanket gardacha.Timi haru lai nepal ko maya cha bhane kasle k bhanyo, kun film ma k bhanyo tyo teti thulo kura oina tara hamrai Foreign minister, vice president , parliament member haru kai kura CC2C ko bhanda nikkai khatarnak chan .Hami as a independent country aahile ko samaya ma chainau ,yo chi ma thokera bhanna sakchu.

Maobadi jati kujat bhayepani alikati china tira najik huna khojdaicha yesle india sanga ko distance badhaudaicha yesbata india ko influence ghatyo bhane hami slowly independent political status ma exist hunchau ki bhanne mero aasa matrai cha!!