Why are Muslims violent? Why they always seem to be fighting?

you guys have to watch the movie "Osama"  to get more familiar with their religion.

i do not hate muslim....I love them, specially girls...they are damn gorgeous :) . I actually had number of muslim friends during my college years. They are pretty good, nice guys.

I really recommend all of you to watch "Osama" movie. you will definitely like it, guaranteed.

Speaking from personal experience and not assuming things.

During my collage years, I did have few Muslim friends from all over the world, Yemen, Saudi, Algerian, Paki, Bangla to name few. These were well educated guys from descent families attending good schools, some ultra rich, they followed everything Western except the faith. So these are my experience

1. You cannot make them listen to anything about other religion. They lack tolerance and compassion or even the slightest interest in other religion except Islam.

   
   

2. Men alive a double standard, way too much than us. They can date and have sex with any women (mostly non Muslims) but not their women. My Saudi friend used to change girlfriends more than his underwear, so did the other rich Saudis whom I did not know well enough. They were sex manics, money to throw like water, ultra expensive cars.

   
   

3. These same guys used to get upset over the thought of their Muslim woman's infidelity. Muslim women should only stick with their own, is what they firmly believe. They eventually end up marrying a Muslim women (usually preferring fresh, virgin) despite all their affairs, and they also expect their wife to at least wear a hajab (very liberal one), the more the cover on their women, the better. Imagine, what those illiterate fundamentalist villagers would do? No wonder, they have honor killing of their daughter and stoning women to death.

   
   

4. Very ethnocentric. Most really do not care of geography. Some of them never cared where I was from despite me being their friend. I showed them few time the map of the world, including where Nepal was. They look at world map very differently...Muslim countries Vs the rest (including us), which is one gigantic enemy waiting for an opportunity to strike Islam as soon as they turn their back. I used to think some of these guys were paranoid.

   
   

5. They hate everybody and do not TRUST non Muslim if they have to accept it honestly. They think their rules are the best. God, they have no manners even with that much wealth and education, they simply refuse to learn the Western values. I barely saw any of them hold doors for the person behind, esp Saudis who think in terms of royalties and luxury. Words like “thank you, please and excuse me” are rarely used.

   
   

All and all, I felt like these guys are NOT to be kept close for long. So eventually I starting keeping a distance and now I'm free from them except for one, who is a Bangladeshi. I've found them more tolerant, more like Muslim from India, or maybe they have no time to be a hard core since they are busy with corruption back home. Just a guess. They hate Pakis cause of the history.

Somebody mentioned Pakis being very peaceful referring to the smooth and gentle language of Urdu. Buddy, you've been watching too many Pakitani TV shows. Know the reality, history and experience them in real life. Grow up son. Pakistan is a breeding ground for Taliban and other Jihadis where little kids are taught to hate and blow up people, brainwashing at Madras that are all over the country, an outcome cause of poor, unstable, corrupt and frequently changing power in the government.

Does the circumcision make u violent but jewis are not ????

Cowboys dude, you are smart. very smart. Do you know how maoist have killed own people in Nepal?? Way more coldblooded and more horrible than how iraqis killed nepalis. If you dont have any idea about how so called hindus and buddists have killed people then shut your creepy mouth up!!!

Thank you. I do believe I am smart.

Rewire,

Well written with personal experiences.

Here is the conclusion of this thread:

1) Not all Muslims are violent. But generally they are.

2) They see the world as "Muslims Vs the Rest of the World" and are incorrectly paranoid about "rest of the world" hatching conspiracies against them.

3) Religion (or the cultural misinterpretation of the Koran) is the main cause of them being violent. A Muslim child brought up outside of Muslim culture will most likely be less violent if not at all.

What
Would Muhammad Do?

Would Muhammad...?	YES!	NO!	Muslim Source (Links)
Have sex with a 9-year-old girl?			Hadith
Advocate beheading?			Qur'an
Require women to cover their faces?			Qur'an & Hadith
Befriend Christians and Jews?			Qur'an
Own slaves?			Qur'an & Hadith
Marry his daughter-in-law?			Qur'an
Approve of prostitution?			Qur'an & Hadith
Gluttonize?			Ibn Ishaq
Recommend wife-beating?			Qur'an & Hadith
Hit his own wife?			Hadith
Kill prisoners of war?			Hadith
Advocate suicide attacks?			Qur'an & Hadith
Kill apostates?			Qur'an & Hadith
Tell sick persons to heal them-selves by drinking camel urine?			Hadith
Beat children who don�t pray?			Hadith
Have boys as young as 13-years-old beheaded?			Hadith
Have eleven wives? (at one time)			Hadith
Approve of Sex with Minors?			Qur'an
Lie?			Qur'an & Hadith
Enslave women and children?			Hadith & Ibn Ishaq
Stone adulterers to death?			Hadith
Torture a man out of greed?			Ibn Ishaq
Consider men and women equal partners?			Qur'an & Hadith
Steal?			Qur'an & Hadith
Kill someone for insulting him?			Qur'an & Hadith
Preach love for people  of all religions?			Qur'an & Hadith
Extort money from other religions?			Qur'an & Hadith
Keep women as sex slaves?			Qur'an
Force conversions to Islam?			Qur'an & Hadith
Commit acts of terror?			Qur'an & Hadith
Kill a woman?			Biographers
Capture a woman and rape her?			Hadith
Encourage the rape of women in front of their husbands?			Hadith (Abu Dawud: 2150)

Whoever started this thread obviously has very little knowledge in Islam. Don't believe everything that the media portrays. You should know that by now. However it is unfortunate to see some Muslims being violent and killing innocent people. That means they are wrong, the people, not the teachings of Islam or the Hadith. You cannot judge a religion based upon what the people are doing. People are people, some are good some are not so good and they make mistakes.

And to Bikash_P, I don't know where you got the table from but it's very incorrect. I don't even think you know what the term Hadith means. Please do some authentic research before posting anything negative. And by authentic I mean go to the source, the Quran or the Hadith. Show me where it says to have sex with 9 year old, to steal, to rape woman and whatever negative things you posted.

 

Sex with Daughter-in-Law: How Muhammad Seduced Zainab?

Sorry guys, I'm changing the context little bit here. Lets look at one of the examples of violence by hindus and buddists.

घर बनाउन ल्याएको निर्माण सामग्री सार्वजनिक बाटोमा राखेकामा स्थानीयवासीले विरोध जनाएपछि माओवादीको काभ्रे जिल्ला कमिटीका सल्लाहकार रत्न लामाले १० जनाभन्दा बढी परिचालन गरी गोली हान्न लगाएका हुन् । गोली लागी स्कुलबाट घर र्फकंदै गरेका सन्तोष कार्कीको मृत्यु भएको हो । उनी स्कुलमा सरस्वती पूजा सकी फर्किरहेका थिए ।

प्रत्यक्षदर्शीका अनुसार माओवादी कार्यकर्ता लामाले टेम्पो पार्कनजिक घर बनाउन सडकमा थुपारेको निर्माण सामग्रीले आवागमन रोकिएपछि स्थानीयवासीसँग उनको विवाद भएको थियो । राजाराम थापासहितका स्थानीयले बुधबार बिहान सडक ढाक्ने गरी गिट्टी नराख्न लामा परिवारलाई आग्रह गरेका थिए । त्यस क्रममा दुवै पक्षबीच हात हालाहालसमेत भएको थियो । त्यसपछि पुगेका प्रहरीले दुवै पक्षलाई साढे नौ बजे मिलापत्र गराई फर्केका थिए । तर मिलापत्र भएको आधा घन्टाभित्रै मोटरसाइकलमा आएका १० जनाभन्दा बढीको सशस्त्र समूहले ताकीताकी गोली हानेको राजारामका भाइ श्रीराम थापाले बताए । 'मिलापत्र सकिएपछि घरबाहिर गफ गरेर बसिरहेका थियौं,' उनले भने, 'मोटरसाइकलमा आएका पासाङ लामाले दाइलाई गोली हानेको हो ।'

गोली लागी राजाराम, गजेन्द्र बस्नेत र सन्तोषकी सानीआमा शोभा कार्की घाइते भएका छन् । शोभा र गजेन्द्र उपचारपछि अस्पतालबाट घर फर्किसकेका छन् । राजारामको उपचार भइरहेको छ । कार्कीको दायाँ हातमा र बस्नेतको खुट्टाको औंलामा गोली लागेको छ । राजारामको दुवै घुँडामा गरी पाँच गोली लागेको अस्पतालले जनायो ।

साम्य भइसकेको विवादमा माओवादी कार्यकर्ता लामाले काभ्रेबाट हतियारधारी समूह झिकाएर गोली हान्न लगाएको स्थानीयवासीले बताए । सशस्त्र समूहलाई आक्रमण गर्न लगाउनमा रत्नका छोराहरू पाल्तेन, फुर्पा, तेन्जिङ लामाको पनि संलग्नता रहेको स्थानीयवासीले बताए ।

माओवादी काभ्रे जिल्ला कमिटी इन्चार्ज दीनानाथ गौतमले लामा पार्टीनिकट भएको स्वीकार गरे । पार्टीको संगठन बनाउने क्रममा लामालाई सल्लाहकारमा राखिएको उल्लेख गर्दै उनले भने, 'बदमासी गरेको ठहरिए हामी खोजेर कारबाहीका लागि सम्बन्धित निकायमा बुझाउँछौं ।' काभ्रेको छत्रेबाझ गाविस गहतेका लामा ठेकेदारहरूको संगठन निर्माण व्यवसायी संघ, काभ्रेका अध्यक्ष पनि हुन् । उनीसँग 'क' र 'ग' समूहका दुई ठेकेदार कम्पनीको लाइसेन्स छ । उनले गोठाटार टेम्पो पार्कनजिक घर बनाइरहेका छन् । गोली लागेका बालक सन्तोषलाई उपचारार्थ सिनामंगलस्थित काठमाडौं मेडिकल कलेज पुर्‍याइएकामा उनको त्यहीं मृत्यु भएको थियो । दोलखा शैलुंगेश्वर १ पैतीका कार्की परिवार चार वर्षदेखि गोठाटार ७ स्थित आफन्तको घरमा बस्दै आएका थिए ।

गोली हानेर भाग्दै गरेका काभ्रे, नयाँगाउँ ८ का पासाङ लामा र भक्तपुर चित्तपोल ४ का रामेश्वर श्रेष्ठलाई स्थानीयवासीले हतियारसहित समातेर कुटपिट गरेका थिए । पिटाइले घाइते भएपछि उनीहरूलाई काठमाडौं मेडिकल कलेजमा उपचारार्थ पुर्‍याइएको थियो । त्यहाँ उपचार हुन नसकेपछि दुवै जनालाई महाराजगन्जस्थित शिक्षण अस्पताल लगिएको छ । प्रहरीका अनुसार उनीहरूको टाउकामा गम्भीर चोट लागेको छ । आक्रमणकारी समूह दुई पेस्तोल, भाला र तरबारसमेत लिएर आएको प्रत्यक्षदर्शी कृष्णभक्त थापाले बताए । 'मलाई पनि हान्न आएका थिए, भागेर ज्यान बचाएँ,' उनले भने, 'उनीहरूले जसलाई पायो त्यसैलाई हानेका थिए ।' घटनास्थलबाट एक थान 'मेड यूएसए ९ एमएम' लेखेको पेस्तोल र तीन राउन्ड गोली बरामद गरिएको महानगरीय प्रहरी वृत्त तीनकुनेका प्रहरी निरीक्षक गज्जुसिद्धि बज्राचार्यले बताए ।

Bikash_P, again, I was asking for an authentic refrence which obviously have no idea what that mean. Instead you've shared a cartoon that someone who has no idea about Islam made up. Actually in Islam you cannot marry your daughter-in law. Father in law is considered a mahram, someone you cannot marry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahram

Please educate yourself before you talk about subject you are not familar with.

@hereafter, well if u cant marry..at least you can have sex with her while the son is gone away like muhammad (piss be upon him) did

here is your authentic reference, where muhamad has sex with his 9 year old wife
http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge/pedophile.htm

also here is your chance to win some money if you can disprove it

Ali Sina's Challenge

I receive many emails from angry Muslims, who

sometimes beg me, and sometimes order me to remove this site. I consider both, pleading and
bullying, signs of psychopathology. Argumentum ad baculum and argumentum ad misericordiam are both logical fallacies.

If you do not like this site and want me to remove it, instead of acting as a bully or as a victim,  disprove mycharges against Muhammad logically.  Not only will I remove the site, I will publicly announce that Islam is a true religion. I will also pay 

$50,000
U.S. dollars 

to anyone who can disprove any of the dozen of the accusations that I have made against Muhammad.

I accuse Muhammad of being:

a narcissist	a misogynist	a rapist
a pedophile	a lecher	a  torturer
a mass murderer	a cult leader	an assassin
a terrorist	a mad man	a looter

looks like you need some re-education

here4life, I'm just curious. To what extent is that cartoon story true then? Prophet had a wife named Zainab. And it is also true that Zainab was married to Zaid. So what are we missing in here?

Is it true that prophet consumated 9 years old Aisyah and had sex with Mariah?

Regarding the story about Zainab. She becomes  a widow when Zaid is killed in a battle. So Prophet Muhammed marries her after she offers herself in marriage to Prophet Muhammed.

Please people don't be so ignorant. I don't know what you believe in but surely I am not offending anyone here about other religion.

Bikash, there are lot of ignorant fools like you that I come across. Surely god has created people like you and to people like you i say Salam and just move on. I hope you find yourself some peace in this life. You lack simple manner of talking to others.

control yourself when speaking only speak the truth, make sure what you're saying is relevant and lastly make sure what you say won't hurt others. It is always the toungue that gets us trouble, if you control that and refrain yourself from saying negative things and unnecessary things you will gain a lot.

The following are some teachings from the Hadith:

Prophet Mohammed - Bukhari
- Much silence and a good disposition, there are no two things better than these.

Prophet Mohammed - Muslim & Bukhari
- Do you know what is better than charity and fasting and prayer? It is keeping peace and good relations between people, as quarrels and bad feelings destroy mankind.

Prophet Mohammed -
- To overcome evil with good is good, to resist evil by evil is evil.

Prophet Mohammed - Muslim
- Kindness is a mark of faith, and whoever is not kind has no faith.

Prophet Mohammed - ibn abbas
- He is not of us who is not affectionate to the little ones, and does not respect the old; and he is not of us, who does not order which is lawful, and prohibits that which is unlawful.

Prophet Mohammed - Bukhari
- It is better to sit alone than in company with the bad; and it is, better still to sit with the good than alone. It is better to speak to a seeker of knowledge than to remain silent; but silence is better than idle words.

Prophet Mohammed -
- When you see a person who has been given more than you in money and beauty, look to those, who have been given less.

Prophet Mohammed -
- The best of the houses is the house where an orphan gets love and kindness.

Prophet Mohammed - Muslim
- A Muslim who meets with others and shares their burdens is better than one who lives a life of seclusion and contemplation.

Prophet Mohammed - Bukhari
- The best richness is the richness of the soul.

We are not saying ALL muslims are violent. But it's just obvious who's watching that muslims are fighting most of the fights. Eg. Kashmir, Palestine, Afganistan, Iraq, Chhechya, Etc. Christians used to fight too in the name of God long time back but not anymore. MUSLIMS NEED TO FORGET AND FORGIVE AND MOVE ON AND COMPROMISE!!!!!

Well as far as voilence is concerned our relgion (hinduism) is not great. One thing i don't like hinduism is
we celebrate killings.  Ram killed rawan, krishna killed kansa, durga killed bhasmasur...................this killed that blah blah.

And we celebrate.  This is so wrong. At this day and age and in 21st century we should at least stop to celebrate killings. I still like festivals like dashain. But i don't celebrate dashain because ram killed Rawan. Now see, rawan was not bad person for everybody. One person can be good for one but bad for other.

Another thing is we give Bali. We should stop killing animals in such a large proportion.  Ok we have to eat meat. But eat what you need and not be forced to slaughter large number.

I think buddhism and Christianity is a lot better in this regard.

Yes no_quiero, Hinduism is not great either. They rape Christians nuns and burn them in India. They terrorize muslims in India. But still, as far as violence is concerned, muslims are # 1. Let me rate these people:

# 1 = muslims

# 2 = hindus

# 3 = christians

# 4 = buddhists

India is becoming more responsible and mature. Hindu violence is going to go down. Muslim nations should also become more responsible and mature and muslim violence will go down.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any
given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a
peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is
the case in:



United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%



At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and
disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and
among street gangs. This is happening in:



Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%



From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to
their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the
introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure
on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with
threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:



France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%



At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow
them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the
Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law
over the entire world.



When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase
lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris ,
we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam
and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with
opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions
are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:





Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%



After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:



Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%



At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:



Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%



From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of
all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic
cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax
placed on infidels, such as in:



Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%



After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run
ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out
the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced
and in some ways is on-going in:



Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%



100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of
Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a
Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only
word, such as in:



Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%



Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the
most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their
blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.



'Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was
me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family
against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe
against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris,
'The Haj'



It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under
100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim
populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and
within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even
enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor
non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not
integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses.
They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime
punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations,
Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national
average would indicate.